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David Nicholson

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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #195 on: October 22, 2017, 07:35:01 PM »
I assume, given the parentage, that the hybrid isn't as hardy as hederifolium? The Cyclamen Society has this to say:

C. africanum is closely related to C. hederifolium. In the wild their ranges do not overlap but in cultivation they readily hybridise – C. x hildebrandii. C. africanum is generally a bigger plant, much less hardy, has a more spherical tuber, roots from the entire surface (flatter and generally bare of roots on the base in C. hederifolium) and has yellow anthers (rust coloured in C. hederifolium).

Thanks Steve. Maybe we shall have to have a look at the tubers at some point?
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #196 on: October 24, 2017, 02:56:58 PM »
Last few flowers on my best Cyclamen mirabile on October 10th.  It has been looking good for over a month.
A bit of a disappointment.  Not only is it not niveum I think it is Cyclamen cilicium not mirabile :'(
Cyclamen intaminatum in a large pot with rocks.  Flowers over a long period but usually just two or three flowers at a time.
Cyclamen cilicium album
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #197 on: October 24, 2017, 03:06:51 PM »
I have 4 Cyclamen graecum which are doing quite well and a lot which produce only leaves.  I think I had over 30 seedlings and young plants before the 2010-2011 winter. 
The secret to getting good Cyclamen is to grow a lot and they will self select.
The white one was bought from Paul Christian many years ago. The others are from Cyclamen Society seeds from wild collected plants
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #198 on: October 24, 2017, 03:52:00 PM »
A bit of a disappointment.  Not only is it not niveum I think it is Cyclamen cilicium not mirabile :'(
Same here Roma.  This seed also included C. cilicium var. album and even what looks like a plant of C. persicum, yet to flower.
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #199 on: October 28, 2017, 01:59:47 PM »
A link brought to my attention by Tim Ingram ....  http://helenie.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/au-royaume-du-cyclamen.html
 A French reaction to a Tilebarn visit - which serves to remind us what has been lost with the passing of Peter Moore and just how captivating and various a  genus  that Cyclamen  is.

Thanks, Tim!
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #200 on: October 28, 2017, 08:05:48 PM »
Tilebarn had numerous french customers, we made grouped pruchases and dispatched the precious bulbs in the country.
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #201 on: November 07, 2017, 01:24:10 PM »
CYCLAMEN 2018

One for your 2018 Diary..........

Cyclamen 2018 will be held at RHS Harlow Carr on Saturday and Sunday the 15 and 16 of September 2018. Show, plant sales, displays, talks, demonstrations and expert advice.

Full details of the the programme will be produced later in the year
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #202 on: November 08, 2017, 11:02:10 PM »
A few flats of Cyclamen hederifolium from Melvyn's seed.  Marvelous foliage but unfortunately the few we tried in the garden only lived a year and a half.  I reckon they must be a southern strain and/or it's simply too wet here in the freeze-thaw winters.

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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #203 on: November 09, 2017, 10:21:02 AM »
Very beautiful plants indeed. I never made it to such beauty in a planter. But Jan Bravenboer has left with his seeds a lot of very beautiful footsteps in my garden.
Such gardeners will be remembered a long time with his beauties in a lot of gardens all over the world. I always give seedlings from these away with his name.
The first one is quite large 50 cm across a single plant.
Some have now leafs up to 15 cm long and they will grow until May.
Thank you Jan.
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #204 on: November 09, 2017, 02:11:48 PM »
Very beautiful plants indeed. I never made it to such beauty in a planter. But Jan Bravenboer has left with his seeds a lot of very beautiful footsteps in my garden.
Such gardeners will be remembered a long time with his beauties in a lot of gardens all over the world. I always give seedlings from these away with his name.
The first one is quite large 50 cm across a single plant.
Some have now leafs up to 15 cm long and they will grow until May.
Thank you Jan.
Wonderful memories.
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #205 on: November 09, 2017, 10:05:29 PM »
all of those hederifolium are stunning leaf forms - nice silver arrow in the first photo far right
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #206 on: November 19, 2017, 09:58:30 PM »
Not sure about the first one - labelled Cyclamen coum but I think it looks more like hederifolium
Cyclamen alpinum
Cyclamen persicum cultivar - I planted 6 in this container in late September (bought in Homebase).  I was amazed how tiny the tubers are to support so many robust flowers and leaves
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #207 on: November 20, 2017, 10:17:41 AM »
Roma, the first one could be coum depending on the leaf size. I have one like that - the leaves are very thick - it has a dark flower which has an odd nose.

Re the alpinum - the leaves look right(ish) but the flower shape isn't and there seems to be a pale spot on the mouth of the flower - it should be a continuous dark blotch. Having said that I have seen alpinum (or a hybrid) with a pale mouth) and plenty of coums with continuous blotches.
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #208 on: November 20, 2017, 02:59:02 PM »
Mark, the plants don't read the books ;D  The coum has quite small leaves which are rather wavy.  I've had this in hederifolium but have not seen it in coum.  I'll know once it flowers.  I had my doubts about the alpinum too but as you say the leaves look right(ish) but the flower shape is wrong.  It is the first flower in a pot of seedlings so it will be interesting to see more flowers.
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #209 on: November 21, 2017, 01:35:55 AM »
Mark, the plants don't read the books ;D  The coum has quite small leaves which are rather wavy.  I've had this in hederifolium but have not seen it in coum.  I'll know once it flowers.  I had my doubts about the alpinum too but as you say the leaves look right(ish) but the flower shape is wrong.  It is the first flower in a pot of seedlings so it will be interesting to see more flowers.

Is the alpinum scented, Roma? I find the scent quite distinctive on this species. As you say, the flower shape doesn't look right. Possibly Cyclamen x drydeniae, with this example expressing more of the coum in the flower than alpinum?
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