Colchicum & relatives 2017

[barnclos]

Colchicum autumnal are starting to come out in numbers in the hills. Shame the weather isn't encouraging them to show their best.

[DaveM]

Colchicum bivonae 'Disraeli' in the garden
and
Colchicum davisii PD26938 in the greenhouse

[gerrit]

Overnight a couple more of the others I showed yesterday have appeared. I've also posted a close up of the white ones to see if this helps to confirm them as C. autumnale 'Album'

David, now I have seen them as a close-up, I think they are not C. autumnale 'Album'. The crooks on the stamen are purple and that is absent on 'Album'. Look at my Colchicum autumnale 'Album', They are still in their beginning and there is yellow in the throat (calyx)

[gerrit]

1. Colchicum pannonicum
2. Colchicum cilicium 'Purpureum'.
3. Colchicum 'Beaconsfield'.
4. Colchicum laetum

[Yann]

you've a great clump of pannonicum

[Arda Takan]

Colchicum from Babadağ / Muğla

[DaveM]

Arda, at what altitude did you see this plant and did you notice what colour the cataphylls were? As the anthers are now black it's well past its best. There are several possibilities as to species in this area. Colchicum sanguicolle occurs high up on Baba Dag and has blood red cataphylls - very distinctive. However, all those I saw on this mountain and farther east were not tessalated as your plant is.

[Arda Takan]

I think it was about 1300-1400 m high because we were close to top but there were still pine trees around. Soil was red.
I think  cataphylls were brown if I correctly understand what it is .
here is another picture of the same plant.

[DaveM]

Hmmm, not sure I can really see the cataphylls clearly. Here are a couple of images of Colchicum sanguicolle for comparison. One of the images clearly shows the cataphylls. Also, these are not, even faintly, tessalated. These images were taken on Tahtali Dag, in a woodland glade near the summit area. I've just looked at the trip notes: C sanguicolle was the only species of colchicum we recorded on Tahtali Dag. Of course we were in this area on 10 Nov 2006, much later than you, so I suspect yours is a different species.

[DaveM]

I wonder whether this might be Colchicum variegatum. This does occur in Antalya province; it is also typically tessalated and Brian Mathew states that the anthers are purple (in his book "The smaller bulbs"). Your second image shows a second flush of flowers just opening and these look to have purple anthers. However, he doesn't say what colour the cataphylls are and I don't have a copy of the Flora of Turkey.....

[Arda Takan]

Dave hi,
I'm pretty sure cataphylis are not that sanguinic red. They were just brown.

[sokol]

Some of the smaller Colchicum are appearing now.

[Yann]

Colchicum pusillum, a tiny one

[Arda Takan]

Some of the smaller Colchicum are appearing now.

great ones sokol.

I have a photo of C.umbrosum from wild taken today

[ArnoldT]

labels long gone.  Large flowers.