Orchids spring 2008

[Viola]

Armin and Gerd!
It is one drylawn at the wast of energy.

Karl

[Lesley Cox]

So are Disas relatively easy from seed then? I mean compared with other orchids which need all the sterile, lab conditions etc and agar.

[Viola]

Here is a Ophris spec. from the coast Kroatiens.
Please help with identification.

Karl

[Joakim B]

Karl nice orchids.
They are Orphys but I presume You knew that already.
I have tried to identify it better than that and compared with other Orphys here on the forum.
Could it be O.holoserica either ssp holoserica or ssp maxima (also known as O. episcopalis) or even a hybrid between 
O. holoserica X scopalax? They seem to be reported in the region. Or is it as easy as O. apifera?
Sorry not to be much of help but I hope we get more suggestions and maybe even a correct one. 
Thanks for sharing
Joakim

[Viola]

Joakim, thanks you for the trouble. I have the self problem.
O.holoserica or O.scolopax, or hybrid.

Karl

[Viola]

Joakim, it is probability Ophris holoserica. The lip from O.scolopax is long and narrow.

Karl

[Joakim B]

Karl I totally agree that it looks more like Ophrys holoserica than O.scolopax. I was thinking of the hybrid since the "Field guide to orchids of Britain and Europe" talks about a hyrid that exist for example in "Istria" and "Dalmatia" and I presumed that the part of Croatia You visited was in those regions and therefore could have the hybrid. The hybrid seems to have less blue on the mirror of the lip compared to holoserica and could also have the mid lobe of the lip longer than the other to side lobe if You understand what I mean. I have not seen any holoserica my self and do not know how much they vary and if Yours is within the normal variation.

Kind regards
Joakim

[hadacekf]

Variability of Ophrys holosericea
On the southern outskirts of Vienna is a protected area for plants. Currently, there flowers Ophrys holosericea. It grows in poor meadows and occurs in continental Europe and Mediterranean region.

[Viola]

Joakim and Franz!
Thank you for yours help.
Franz wonderful Pics.

Karl

[Joakim B]

Franz wonderful pictures thanks a lot. What a nice variability. When does it bloom in Austria?
Franz do You think that Karlīs plant is a hybrid or pure holoserica?


Kind regards
Joakim

[hadacekf]

Joakim,
Ophrys holosericea flowers now.
I do not know whether Karl's plant is a hybrid or pure holoserica
The taxon of hybrid origin, very variable.
Thanks

[Joakim B]

Thanks for the information Franz
Kind regards
Joakim

[derekb]

Three more Disa from me.
Disa Unifoam,
Disa Kwensis,
 Disa R Cywes

[Tony Willis]

not quite as exotic as those wonderful disa but some in flower at the moment.


serapia vomeracea
 anacamptis pyramidalis
 listera ovata 
 listera ovata

[Anthony Darby]

I have the first two flowering now too. The last is common in the woods locally.