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Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« on: September 24, 2017, 11:39:30 AM »
A first contribution to this theme was sent by Yann at September 19th (Narcissus cavanillesii) in Narcissus September 2017.

Here are my first autumn flowers -
a special coloured Narcissus miniatus (obsoletus), of Israeli origin (with best thanks to the donor).
The last photo (from 2009) shows the colouration of an own plant, found in Spain.

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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2017, 11:47:34 AM »
Glad to see you continue your success with these, Gerd. I find them very beautiful.
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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2017, 07:37:34 PM »
very nice, can't wait my bulbs from Rafa's seeds to bloom. :P
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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2017, 07:01:35 PM »
Maggia and Yann -

Thank you both for kind comments!

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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2017, 08:40:03 PM »
Narcissus tazettus starts here to flower, much earlier than ever.
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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2017, 09:17:31 AM »
Very interesting Stefan!
When does this provenance (from Gargano/Italy?) flower normally?

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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2017, 06:21:54 PM »
I can't say. First they flowered around Christmas, next winter in March and now the first are starting in September.
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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 09:22:29 AM »
Thank you Stefan! I had a similar experience with Narcissus papyraceus from Southern Spain, which at one occasion flowers in October but after that never again.

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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 08:51:07 AM »
This is Narcissus cavanillesii - most probably the subspecies mauretanicus

- flowering more reliably than plants of Spanish origin

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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 06:45:52 PM »
Narcissus x alleniae, autumn ones are my favorites

Nice plant Yann- this is also one of my favorites!
Why don't you post them in 'Autumn flowering Daffodils NH'?

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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 07:13:43 PM »
oupss, i'll move my post.
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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 08:14:23 PM »
Thank you Stefan! I had a similar experience with Narcissus papyraceus from Southern Spain, which at one occasion flowers in October but after that never again.

Gerd

I have seen further flowering stems today that will come into flower during the following weeks.

Very nice and unusual Narcissus these cavanillesii.
Stefan
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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2017, 01:42:44 AM »
Hi Gerd,
I see on Daffnet  ( http://daffnet.org/narcissus-x-xanthochlorus/ ) that N. x xanthochlorus (N. cavanilesiix N. viridiflorus) could be fertile.
Have you any experience of this?
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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2017, 08:40:04 AM »
Narcissus x alleniae, autumn ones are my favorites
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Re: Autumn flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2017, 10:15:28 AM »
Hi Gerd,
I see on Daffnet  ( http://daffnet.org/narcissus-x-xanthochlorus/ ) that N. x xanthochlorus (N. cavanilesiix N. viridiflorus) could be fertile.
Have you any experience of this?
cheers
fermi

Hi Fermi,
- unfortunately not! I received a few bulbs of this cross from its 'creator' but I had no seedset. This is most probably caused by our  weather conditions here with too low temperatures for the development of seeds.
This species has a tendency for splitting, so flowers are rare. With some luck I'll have one flowering plant this season and so there will be a chance for a new test.

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