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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #75 on: December 28, 2017, 07:04:13 PM »
Hi Trond & Arturo,
The adesmia in the junellia image is Adesmia villosa and the ephedra E. frustillata. Great set of images Trond.

Hi Martin, thank you for the names!
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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #76 on: December 28, 2017, 07:10:18 PM »
Violets with variation.

Violet habitat: Volcano Copahue

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At least 3 very similar yellow "normal" species of Viola occur in Patagonia.

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The other species I show are rosulate. Some are very similar and hybrids exist. I have tried to name some.
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Viola sacculus
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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #77 on: December 28, 2017, 07:12:28 PM »
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A hybrid?

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Viola volcanica

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Viola dasyphylla

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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #78 on: December 28, 2017, 07:14:58 PM »
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Viola cotyledon

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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #79 on: December 28, 2017, 07:17:21 PM »
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Viola trochlearis

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Viola tectiflora

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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #80 on: December 28, 2017, 07:19:57 PM »
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A hybrid?


Viola columnaris?

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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #81 on: December 28, 2017, 07:26:28 PM »
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Viola copahuense?

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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #82 on: December 28, 2017, 07:38:33 PM »
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Viola cotelydon

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We found  Viola coronifera out of flower so these pictures are from 2013.


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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #83 on: December 28, 2017, 09:40:03 PM »
Trond, great Viola photos.

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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #84 on: December 28, 2017, 09:45:52 PM »
Hello, Hoy.

My todays favorites of your pictures are a Viola volcanica (the symmetrical arrangement of the blossoms in the second picture is brilliant)... and Viola tectiflora (the foliage is like from another star). Here one sees it again... the nature is the best designer.

One can describe all shown pictures of this trip with only one word... breathtaking.

Many thanks for it...
Thomas

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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #85 on: December 29, 2017, 12:43:44 AM »
Hi Trond, I was trying to identify non flowering plant just above the Viola trochlearis pic. Could it be Calandrinia affinis?
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Viola trochlearis

/quote] Finding out what grows together is part of the fun even if it is only armchair mountain botanizing in my case... ;D
Thank you.
Arturo Tarak

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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #86 on: December 29, 2017, 01:35:33 AM »
Absolutely stunning pictures with Viola species Trond 8)
You must held your emotions well, when I stumble upon something very beautiful I take the worse photographs.

Given the region, a wild guess for the yellow one is V. reichei. When Richard started to post his pictures I took out the books bought when in Santiago and I read following the pictures :)
Highly recommend them - Flora Nativa de valor ornamental - 3 vol. by regions of Chile: Paulina Riedemann, Gustavo Aldunate and Sebastian Teillier.
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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #87 on: December 29, 2017, 09:22:55 AM »
Trond, great Viola photos.

Thanks Ian!


Hello, Hoy.

My todays favorites of your pictures are a Viola volcanica (the symmetrical arrangement of the blossoms in the second picture is brilliant)... and Viola tectiflora (the foliage is like from another star). Here one sees it again... the nature is the best designer.

One can describe all shown pictures of this trip with only one word... breathtaking.

Many thanks for it...
Thomas


You are welcome Thomas. I does as best as I can.

My favorite is usually the one I have in front of me at the moment! They are all beautiful in different ways.


Hi Trond, I was trying to identify non flowering plant just above the Viola trochlearis pic. Could it be Calandrinia affinis?

Finding out what grows together is part of the fun even if it is only armchair mountain botanizing in my case... ;D
Thank you.


Hi Arturo,

Calandrinia affinis don't grow in the same habitat as trochlearis. The plant is Berberis empetrifolia.

Calandrinia affinis (seasonally wet flats):

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Berberis empetrifolia (and V trochlearis) always drained areas.

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Absolutely stunning pictures with Viola species Trond 8)
You must held your emotions well, when I stumble upon something very beautiful I take the worse photographs.

Given the region, a wild guess for the yellow one is V. reichei. When Richard started to post his pictures I took out the books bought when in Santiago and I read following the pictures :)
Highly recommend them - Flora Nativa de valor ornamental - 3 vol. by regions of Chile: Paulina Riedemann, Gustavo Aldunate and Sebastian Teillier.

Thank you, Gabriela :)

I usually behave controlled, no big exclamations whatever happens ;D

You are right, the yellow viola can be V. reichei.  Other possibilities are maculata and magellanica. I use Martin Sheader's book (Flowers of the Patagonian mountains).
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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #88 on: December 29, 2017, 10:09:00 AM »
Trond, my asking is directed in designing what might become  the native Patagonian rock garden on my property. Following your :<Yes you should be able to grow almost every plant I have shown! > is trying to figure how many types of sites/habitats should I envision. It is a very long term project however very much worthwhile. At least I don't have to be concerned too much above the general climatic conditions however these do change drastically locally, so there's a lot of research and learning to be done before any such project can bring fruition. If successful then I'll be able to share seeds from my garden. Although Patagonia is a vast region, there is still scanty information about native populations of most of these small plants  that in many cases have very low densities restricted to a narrow band alongside the Andes. New species are still being discovered in the most unexpected places! Unfortunately development occurrs much more rapědly so there's not that much time left to get many of these species onto cultivation.
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Re: Report from southern Argentina.
« Reply #89 on: December 30, 2017, 12:31:25 PM »
Arturo,

your climate should be of least concern living in Bariloche! Most of the plants I have photographed live in very rocky habitat with excellent drainage. So you need a big heap of rocks and sand ;D

And you are right. Development can erase species even before they are described. Rare species can also be harmed by tourists like myself trampling around to get the best picture! I am well aware of that.
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