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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2018, 01:21:03 PM »
I was a bit reluctant to post the image.  I've seen the plant with white and yellow forms and wasn't 100% sure it as the correct ID.
Any insight into this disparity?

Hello Arnold.
Here are pictures of Narcissus romieuxii subsp. albidus var. zaianicus, MS168 and a bunch of its self pollinated seedlings. There are some yellowish flowers.
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2018, 02:41:01 PM »
In his recent book Mike Salmon raises this plant to specific status as Narcissus zaianicus where he describes it as possibly the result of a stable hybrid between Narcissus romieuxii var riffanus and N. cantabricus ssp monophyllus - it can have pale primrose to milk white flowers he goes on to state that he found some pure populations and other mixed swarms.

If you are interested in these plants his book is well worth having as he shows the masses of hybrids that occur in the wild.

I should add that we have always had the same mix in colour among the bulbs and seedlings we have grown of this taxa.
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2018, 09:28:40 PM »
Ah, thank you both.

Quite a geographical span in the answer.

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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2018, 10:34:05 PM »
I begin to ask myself who are the more splitter, daffodil or orchid lovers ?
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2018, 04:58:08 PM »
Narcissus ‘春の光 (Haru-no-Hikari)’
One of the earliest yellow hoops at my place. It has a resemblance to N. bulbocodium on its appearance.
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2018, 05:12:18 PM »
In his recent book Mike Salmon raises this plant to specific status as Narcissus zaianicus where he describes it as possibly the result of a stable hybrid between Narcissus romieuxii var riffanus and N. cantabricus ssp monophyllus - it can have pale primrose to milk white flowers he goes on to state that he found some pure populations and other mixed swarms.

If you are interested in these plants his book is well worth having as he shows the masses of hybrids that occur in the wild.

I should add that we have always had the same mix in colour among the bulbs and seedlings we have grown of this taxa.

Would you tell me the book title and where can I obtain it, please?
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2018, 05:38:46 PM »
All details here, YT , including some photos  -
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=248.msg382333#msg382333

From Jon Evans : "This is a large format (about A4), hefty volume, packed with useful information very attractively presented. A double page spread is allocated for each subspecies with additional pages as needed especially to show differences between subspecies. The double page includes a detailed botanical description of the species together with a map of where they have been found . He includes his collection numbers which can be matched against material available in cultivation, particularly from Kurt Vickery who took over most of the business.  Most striking of all are the beautiful botanical illustrations all done by Mike himself.

Not everyone will agree with Mike’s conclusions, but regardless of that the information in this volume is invaluable.

If anybody is interested they can obtain a copy direct from the printer : Price £44.99 (there may be additional charges for overseas postage)."

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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2018, 01:57:03 AM »
Thank you very much for your quick response with the perfect information as usual, Maggi :-*
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2018, 07:45:26 PM »
You can also get it from the Alpine Garden Society, if the publishers will not send to Japan:
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/sales/books/bulbous/A+Survey+of+the+Genus+Narcissus/502/
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2018, 01:48:37 AM »
Thank you, Anne ;)
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2018, 03:41:40 PM »
Narcissus cantabricus (may be subsp cantabrica?). In april 2013 I collected seeds near Ardales lakes among Iris planifolia.
The seeds were fallen on the soil surface as most of the capsules were opened, i also grabbed Cyclamen in the batch.
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2018, 12:12:46 AM »
Just a wild beauty 8)
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2018, 11:06:45 AM »
Narcissus romieuxii ‘Craigton Clumper’ :) :) :)
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2018, 12:37:12 PM »
Narcissus romieuxii ‘Craigton Clumper’ :) :) :)
Oh my word - that looks fantastic!  Shows why it was worth a name!!
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Re: Winter flowering narcissus (NH)
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2018, 02:33:06 PM »
Oh my word - that looks fantastic!  Shows why it was worth a name!!
I'm a lucky person to share this outstanding hoop from your bulb house with the SRGC members! Thank you, Maggi :) :) :)
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