Winter flowering narcissus (NH)

[annew]

Thanks Maggi - I haven't tried the resizer yet.

[Ian Y]

Two different things here.... There is the srgc resizing gadget which you can download and use..... And also the new set thing  which automatlcally resizes pix as you load the, into a post.....

[Maggi Young]

Anne : if you just upload a photo into a position in the text  the forum's own system will resize it automatically.

 This is an example pic from Jens Birck....

 


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[Maggi Young]

Angelo Porcelli posted this super comparison of tazetta types on Facebook :


A photo comparison of some wild Narcissus of the tazetta group, I have collected in various part of Italy or I was given.
1. papyraceus with pointed tepals, a tall and vigorous form very common in my region Apulia.Seed fertile.
2. tazetta italicus, the sterile hybrid between tazetta and payraceus, found in many parts of Italy
3. tazetta orientalis, the sterile triploid form usually cultivated, with pleasant citrus scent.
4.tazetta ssp.bertolonii, found wild in Tuscany, Sardinia and minor islands nearby. Seed fertile. Occasionally individuals with pale cream tepals arise from seed, not hybrid, just a rare color variant.
5.tazetta 'siculus', as I wrote in another post, a fertile forms described from Sicily but found in other places in Southern Italy.
6.tazetta from hills between Molise and Apulia, narrow leaves, inflorescences with 2-4 flowers. Seed fertile.
7.papyraceus with rounded tepals, inflorescences more compact and smaller individual florets, found in Basilicata and Calabria several times. Seed fertile
8. tazetta found near the town of Policoro- Basilicata, an odd specimen sterile, which I have observed for years to be sure of its sterility.
9. tazetta from Gargano woods in Apulia, short form with twisted leaves, florets with a bigger and round cup. Seed fertile.
10. Avalanche, which is in my opinion just a natural form of tazetta, which reproduces true to type as seen in many occasions from other members of this group.
All these forms are in flower these days, some just at the end like papyraceus and tazetta orientalis, some at the first stage like the wild tazetta types. I have other wild tazetta types which bloom later, a very interesting one looks to be a 'giant' form, as large as Grand Monarque.



see also comments in reply 81 below.


edit : see also   second post from Angelo  here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=16092.msg388857#msg388857

[Gail]

That's a brilliant photo - so useful to have comparison shots like that, thank you for posting.

[fermi de Sousa]

Thanks, Maggi (and Angelo),
that's a very helpful pic - especially as it's bulb-buying season here
Tazettas do very well here (though most Aussies call them "jonquills"!!!)
cheers
fermi

[Maggi Young]

Further to  post of tazetta types   reply 78, above :

Eric Breed:  could nos.  8 and 9 be ssp. grandicrenatus ? and Avalanche maybe ochroleucus ?? (check Michael Salmons survey of the genus Narcissus).


Angelo Porcelli :  I don't know Eric, tazetta and papyraceus are quite variable species very widespread in the Mediterranean. Ancient Italian florae like those of Parlatore described over a dozen of different species, which differ for minimal features often of little use. I don't have the work you mention.

[annew]

Anne : if you just upload a photo into a position in the text  the forum's own system will resize it automatically.

 This is an example pic from Jens Birck....

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Here goes..
Apart from Trumpet Voluntary this is my earliest trumpet this year. One of the seedlings from Candlepower x cyclamineus - unregistered so far.

[annew]

By 'eck - it works!

[Maggi Young]

Told you!  Works even better for photos in the text!

 This is a pretty pale  daff -  gotta love a dainty trumpet!

[YT]

Here goes..
Apart from Trumpet Voluntary this is my earliest trumpet this year. One of the seedlings from Candlepower x cyclamineus - unregistered so far.

[YT]

Narcissus romieuxii (‘Atlas Gold’ x self) x N. bulbocodium (subsp. obesus x var. genuinus)
A potful newly flowering seedlings The right one in the first picture is my favourite, wider corona with deeper yellow.

[annew]

That is a real beauty Tatsuo and a lovely deep yellow.
The fun of growing from seed - three sisters from a cross between N. cantabricus and N. romieuxii rifanus. Don't know where the twin flowers came from! I think some triandrus might have sneaked in when I wasn't looking 

The sun came out today! Then it snowed. And rained. And blew.

[Ian Y]

That is a real beauty Tatsuo and a lovely deep yellow.
The fun of growing from seed - three sisters from a cross between N. cantabricus and N. romieuxii rifanus. Don't know where the twin flowers came from! I think some triandrus might have sneaked in when I wasn't looking 

The sun came out today! Then it snowed. And rained. And blew.

Anne I have had twin flowers appear on a number of bulbocodium group seedlings the first time they flowered my excitement was dash d as they have never had twin flowers again.
I hope yours are better behaved.

[annew]

Anne I have had twin flowers appear on a number of bulbocodium group seedlings the first time they flowered my excitement was dash d as they have never had twin flowers again.
I hope yours are better behaved.

Me too. I hope they don't stay, they look too crowded. I like to see the hoops in splendid isolation on the stem.