We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Four days in the Balkans  (Read 4186 times)

Tim Murphy

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
Four days in the Balkans
« on: April 02, 2008, 08:11:06 PM »
On Easter Sunday a friend and I travelled out to Croatia (Zagreb) with the intention of visiting several hellebore sites. On Monday and Tuesday we visited sites I have been to many times before and on Wednesday & Thursday we visited new (to me) colonies much further south. We travelled home from Dubrovnik.

Our hotel for the first two nights is a short drive from Zagreb Airport in a small town called Samobor. From there we were well placed for our first day travelling to Slavonia (northeast Croatia). The whole area has seen an awful lot flooding lately, probably due to a mix of snow melt and rain. The first species we came across was Helleborus odorus flowering on a sunny roadside slope (photos 1, 2 & 3).

Further north in the Vocin area and we saw Helleborus dumetorum growing in and around sparse woodland. You can see that some of the plants are under water (photos 4, 5 & 6).

The next Helleborus dumetorum site is in the same general area. I first visited this site in 2004 and found one plant with very slight violet markings. I remembered the rough whereabouts of the plant and was pleased to find it growing happily. I must also admit to visiting this colony in 2006 and not being able to find it :) (photos 7, 8, 9 & 10).

Tim Murphy

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2008, 08:24:45 PM »
Further north towards the border with Hungary we visited a large colony of Helleborus croaticus. There are thousands of unflowered plants in the woodland, but as the locals thin the trees out (using a style of woodland management that we could do with implementing here), many of these unflowered plants will start to flower as more light reaches them. Corydalis was growing with the hellebores forming groundcover in places. (photos 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5).

On Tuesday we made the long journey from Samobor to Cavtat just south of Dubrovnik. We had planned to stop at several colonies west of the Plitvice National Park a couple of hours south of Zagreb but due to very heavy recent snowfall I had to change the itinerary. We headed into northwest Bosnia to the largest colony of Hellebourus torquatus I know of. We didn't escape the snow but it wasn't as heavy as it had been in Croatia (photos 6, 7, 8 & 9).

Tim Murphy

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2008, 08:30:36 PM »
On Wednesday we travelled into Montenegro to look at Helleborus hercegovinus. We found this plant in vast numbers at a few places.



Tim Murphy

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2008, 08:38:01 PM »
Rather than drive back the way we came, we looped back to Dubrovnik by driving through the southwest corner of Bosnia (Republika Srpska). All the the place name signs are in Cyrillic here, which makes things interesting :)

We found some more sites of Helleborus hercegovinus. It was growing with other interesting things including frits and Cyclamen hederifolium. Can anybody id the snake species in the last photo? I almost stepped on this one and came close to doing the same again on two other occasions at this site.

Tim Murphy

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2008, 08:42:12 PM »
Finally, some Cyclamen hederifolium in Croatia, close to the border with Bosnia.

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44766
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2008, 08:59:02 PM »
Tim, what a super whirlwind trip you have taken us on!
The hercegovinus foliage is superb... the large plants look like green "Cousin It" from the Adams Family!
 Your snake is a slow worm... very nice indeed 8)
The pretty frits are F. messanensis, I reckon... they're nice, too :D
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

Tony Willis

  • Wandering Star
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3205
  • Country: england
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2008, 09:04:13 PM »
Tim glad you had such a good trip. Smashing pictures and good to see the plants in the wild
Chorley, Lancashire zone 8b

Tim Murphy

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2008, 09:08:30 PM »
Thanks for the "snake" id, Maggi. It was around a metre long, maybe a bit more with a diameter of 2 1/2 inches. I'm glad it was nothing venomous! I had a feeling the frits were messanensis but wanted confirmation, so thanks for that too.

Gerdk

  • grower of sweet violets
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2929
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2008, 10:44:17 PM »
Tim,
Isn't the region a paradise for plantlovers? - Unfortunately sometimes a hell concerning the weather.
Wonderful pics, love the different Cyclamen leaves!

Gerd
Gerd Knoche, Solingen
Germany

Hjalmar

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 55
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2008, 07:19:02 AM »
I'd say the "snake" is a scheltopusik (Ophisaurus apodus) rather than a slow worm (Anguis fragilis). In any case, a lizard.
Hjalmar Rosengren, Sweden

David Nicholson

  • Hawkeye
  • Journal Access Group
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13117
  • Country: england
  • Why can't I play like Clapton
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2008, 09:32:16 AM »
Enjoyed the trip Tim, thanks for posting.
David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b
"Victims of satire who are overly defensive, who cry "foul" or just winge to high heaven, might take pause and consider what exactly it is that leaves them so sensitive, when they were happy with satire when they were on the side dishing it out"

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44766
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 11:32:01 AM »
Quote
I'd say the "snake" is a scheltopusik (Ophisaurus apodus) rather than a slow worm (Anguis fragilis). In any case, a lizard.
Yes, Hjalmar, I'm sure you are correct. I did wonder when Tim said the  length of the "snake" was around one metre..... I have never seen a slow worm bigger than about 5ocms !.....thanks for your clarification. 8)
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

assybish

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 24
    • National Collection of Hellebores
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2008, 06:17:26 PM »
Hi Tim,
As the concerned friend I had looked up th snake but hadn't had time to tell you.
Yes it is indeed the European Glass lizard or legless lizard - non venomous so we were ok! Phew :-\

I shall post on GB's next week have been a bit busy.
Great to see the photos and relive some good memories.
Like wine, Hellebores are addictive!

ian mcenery

  • Maverick Midlander
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1590
  • Country: 00
  • Always room for another plant
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2008, 09:47:20 AM »
Nice pics Tim particularly like those hercogovinius. Thanks for sharing
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield  West Midlands 600ft above sea level

Hans J

  • Gardener and Gourmet
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4165
  • Country: de
Re: Four days in the Balkans
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2008, 09:49:49 AM »
Hi Tim ,

Thanks for the pics !
Did you see also Epimedium alpinum in this area ?

Greetings
Hans
"The bigger the roof damage, the better the view"(Alexandra Potter)

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal