Galanthus in February 2018

[Mariette]

Another snowdrop from the MacLennan's display at the AGS event.  The leaves look very distinctively furled and upright but do they stay this way or turn normal later?

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This is interesting, as I´ve got two unidentfied snowdrops with very upright and furled leaves at flowering - time. Both came to me as G. elwesii, one I showed in January , # 110. The other popped up somewhat later. Once I read that G. woronowii has broader and longer leaves where populations grow nearer to the coast, whereas the leaves of G. woronowii growing in colder parts uphill tend to be smaller and narrower. I wonder , how narrow the leaves of the latter may be.

[Mariette]

Today I received Joe Sharman´s list. He offers G. plicatus ´Praying Mantis´, does anybody know this? Johan Mens selected ´Mantis´, which is a G. nivalis var. scharlockii, I think.

[Maggi Young]

David, have you got these the right way round?

They are in the order(I think)  they were first posted before I turned them the right way up, Steve - Have I got it wrong ?
 

Some yellows
First, ‘Carolyn Elwes’. Then’Golden Promise’. Finally, ‘Belvedere Gold’.

   

[David Lowndes]

Thanks for sorting them Maggi.
The order now is Belvedere Gold, Golden Promise then Carolyn Elwes.

[Maggi Young]

Thanks David - sorry for getting confused! (It happens all the time !)

[Alan_b]

Once I read that G. woronowii has broader and longer leaves where populations grow nearer to the coast, whereas the leaves of G. woronowii growing in colder parts uphill tend to be smaller and narrower. I wonder , how narrow the leaves of the latter may be.

But woronowii does not have a basal mark on the inner petals as those ones do.  I think you need to grwo them on and see how they behave over a few years.

[Tim Harberd]

I'd be interested in seeing Joe Sharman's list.... The most recent one on the Monksilver website seems to be 2016!

Tim DH

[Mariette]

But woronowii does not have a basal mark on the inner petals as those ones do.  I think you need to grwo them on and see how they behave over a few years.

Of course You´re right, and that´s what I´m going to do. Your picture just reminded me of the fact, that the common forms of species , which are widespread in cultivation,  often give a wrong impression of the possible variations. When I discovered these G. nivalis in 2 local woods, a well-known German collector stated that they must be hybrids with G. elwesii, whereas a British specialist judged them to be plain G. nivalis.

[Alan_b]

In fairness to collectors and specialists, it is often quite difficult to make a good judgement from photographs, much easier if you have the plant in front of you.  I have probably looked at over ten thousand examples of Galanthus nivalis for every one example Galanthus woronowii that I have seen.  Basal marks on the inner petals of Galanthus nivalis (like those in your photograph) are rare in my area but not impossible to find.  I have no idea if the same is true for woronowii because I haven't seen enough.   

[annew]

Anybody ever encountered a virescent ipoc? This is about as green as I've seen! Hopefully we'll have it available next season. Currently sorting out proper registration.
Outer segments

Inner segments

[annew]

Outer segments on left (upper and lower faces), inner segments on right (upper and lower faces)

[Maggi Young]

My word Anne, you are determined to keep us in a state of excitement with these  'drops!
 Very green and very shapely -  I find myself surprised to say that with an ovary that shape I hope that bodes well for seed set!
Off  now to  lie down with some chocolate to  recover my equilibrium!

[Brian Ellis]

A very exciting development Anne, I'd like a poc with good green marks on the outers too if you can manage it!

[annew]

How much greener do you want, Brian?

[David Lowndes]

Very nice. I imagine they look fantastic in a clump. Erm... how much would a clump cost Anne?