Joze Bavcon University Gardens Ljubljana's 2019 Snowdrop Offering

[johnralphcarpenter]

Or even Milton Friedman perhaps?

Ah well having been elevated recently to free tv license status the markets my oyster.

So the world is your lobster?

[David Nicholson]

  . Just goes to show how quickly language develops, I wasn't sure when I wrote it which was the funny version.

[Brian Ellis]

Quite so Maggi. Seller offers snowdrop at fixed price; buyer, on the basis of beauty, recommendation from other growers, garden worthiness, stability and/or desire to support a horticultural institution, buys snowdrop. I don't think we need to consult the work of John Maynard Keynes to understand what is happening here.

I’d rather deal in facts than theories, and being a historian rely on primary evidence rather than secondary evidence too.  I had hoped for a more helpful response, which this forum has always been known for in the past, as none of these appear in my copy of Dr Bavcon’s delightful book so how do you distinguish between these snowdrops when the pictures are so low resolution and the description minimal?  A search for ‘Nova Gorica’ on Google brings up the Botanical Garden site, an eBay sale where someone paid over £200 and a post from 2015 from Paul Barney:  http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12887.msg328948#msg328948
Or do you simply pay for the most expensive amongst those offered and hope they are sufficiently different?

[Blonde Ingrid]

The Ljubljana Express arrives on Platform 4! Delighted with my latest additions from Joze Bavcon's excellent drops.



Useful insight into snowdrop 'prices' and the danger of price assumptions. My special was purchased for a 'pot price of £x. The plant price is actually £x/4, vital information when determining price and expense. You buy the whole pot and there are very obviously, in the photographs on his site, more than one plant in many pots.! It is of course the reason why I gave the 'primary source' of my experience of this.



The Botanic Gardens receive only one third of their funding from Government, relying on plant and book sales to be able to fund the staff, infrastructure improvement (Glasshouse heating etc), students etc, so I am delighted to help fund their effort, as I am sure most others are.

He has added more to his website, both named and unnamed and myself and up to 38 others so far, have found this a simple straightforward exercise, on:...

http://www.botanic-gardens-ljubljana.com/de/der-laden/pflanzen

[Maggi Young]

The Botanic Gardens receive only one third of their funding from Government, relying on plant and book sales to be able to fund the staff, infrastructure improvement (Glasshouse heating etc), students etc, so I am delighted to help fund their effort, as I am sure most others are.

Rather sad to see the low level of govmt. funding the  Ljubljana Botanic Garden receives - though I suppose  it is not unique in this matter.  It's lucky that Dr Bavcon  is so proactive in supporting the institution to which he is obviously devoted. 

[Brian Ellis]

Rather sad to see the low level of govmt. funding the  Ljubljana Botanic Garden receives - though I suppose  it is not unique in this matter.  It's lucky that Dr Bavcon  is so proactive in supporting the institution to which he is obviously devoted.

I quite agree that the level of funding for the Botanic Garden is poor and that Dr Bavcon should be praised for being so proactive.  He gave a most interesting talk at one of Joe's Galas some years ago.  I would love to join in and buy some decent, different snowdrops to add to my collection.  I still would like to know, however, how you could choose this snowdrop and know what you are getting for the price - especially as it is around £87.

[Maggi Young]

How  Who knows what it is that moves anyone to buy anything?  Some people are seeing enough, it appears, from the numbers being sold, to be happy.   

[Blonde Ingrid]

How Some people are seeing enough, it appears, from the numbers being sold, to be happy.

Quite, up to 49 others have added to their collection now.

Joze tells me that the season there is ending due to rising temperatures, so if you are thinking of buying, don't leave it too much longer!

[Blonde Ingrid]

Dr Joze Bavcon still has some named and unnamed drops available on his site (University Gardens Ljubljana), at a wide range of price levels, some for 20-25 Euros; worth remembering the prices are per pot!

http://www.botanic-gardens-ljubljana.com/de/der-laden/pflanzen

Mine have produced their usual blizzard of seed capsules/seeds that will be sown when ripe.

One of my favourite of the unnamed varieties:



Don't forget his excellent book on snowdrops, plus the snowdrop booklet, mine contains several photos and detail on the named varieties.



The increasing number of buyers is encouraging in terms of funding for this horticultural institute.

[mallthorn]

I contacted the University on Thursday night (last week) and got a reply yesterday (Tuesday). Payment has been transferred and my chosen drop has been dispatched today, it was marked as sold yesterday. All in all the most time consuming part of the transaction was the setting up of the payment from my bank. Contact is good and whilst the images are not the best to go on I hope that I will be suitably pleased with my drop and even have an image to share next year.

[Maggi Young]

Dr Bavcon has spoken at at least one of Joe Sharman's Galanthus Galas, maybe other events in England too - and  at one of the major Irish Galanthus galas too. I believe he sold  some Slovenian 'drops at those events  for  considerable sums of money. Dr John Grimshaw and Matt Bishop, both well-known characters on  the galanthus scene have  visited Slovenia to speak at  galas run by Dr Bavcon and I know  he has  been welcomed at  several  British and Irish gardens so new comers to snowdrop collecting  can know he is reliable in his  work for the Botanical Garden.

[Blonde Ingrid]

Knocked out the final four Nova Gorica unnamed, just numbered this morning!

The usual great haul from Joze Bavcon's drops. Bought by the pot and priced that way, not only do you get additional bulbs with many but they increase well and include some super virescents!

Well worth keeping an eye on his site when the season starts and don't forget his excellent book!

http://www.botanic-gardens-ljubljana.com/de/common-snowdrop-galanthus-nivalis-l-in-slovenia

[Erwinia]

It appears that the 2019 sales season has started with the first plant offered online.

http://www.botanic-gardens-ljubljana.com/en/the-shop/plants

[Maggi Young]

 Interestingly, Ian Young, just returned from speaking  at the  Co.  Carlow  Snowdrop Gala  along with Ian Christie, reports seeing many super nivalis plants from Jose Bavcon's Slovenian offerings growing well and as well as being attractive plants, they are providing excellent new "blood" to the collections in  some  beautiful  Irish gardens. 

[Blonde Ingrid]

Interestingly, Ian Young, just returned from speaking  at the  Co.  Carlow  Snowdrop Gala  along with Ian Christie, reports seeing many super nivalis plants from Jose Bavcon's Slovenian offerings growing well and as well as being attractive plants, they are providing excellent new "blood" to the collections in  some  beautiful  Irish gardens.

Another group that seems to have found it very easy to order from Joze! Very good snowdrops for any collection as they are prolific seeds producers.