Autumn flowering narcissus in the Northern Hemisphere 2018

[Gerdk]

Here we go

This is

Narcissus elegans var. oxypetalus (Boissier) Maire, Cat. Pl. Maroc: 139 (1931)


a little bit leggy unfortunately

Gerd

[Karaba]

Found today in Daffnet:

Harold Koopowitz, California
October 9, 2018

Note I use N. obsoletus as the correct name for N. elegans. Our paper on the name change was accepted and published in Phytotaxa.


Confusion perfect! I guess it is better now to add  author names to the species name in order to prevent mistakes.

Gerd

Thanks for the ref. You can read the paper here : https://www.researchgate.net/publication/314088340_Nomenclatural_notes_on_some_autumn_flowering_daffodils_Narcissus_Amaryllidaceae

[Gerdk]

Ivain,
Thank you too!

Gerd

[Gerdk]

A few new ones are flowering now

1. + 2.  Narcissus obsoletus(Haw.)Spach Steudel  x tazetta
3.         Narcissus viridiflorus
4.         and its hybrid with obsoletus (Haw.)SpachSteudel
Gerd

[Gerdk]

and

Narcissus obsoletus (Haw.)Spach Steudel from Cyprus
und a fine specimen with rounded petals (Spain)

Gerd

[bibliofloris]

I’ve really been enjoyimg your photos, Gerd and Yann - thank you! These are a whole new world for me, and I’ve never seen them in person. They’re beautiful!
Kelly

[Gerdk]

Thank you for your kind remarks!

Gerd

[Karaba]

Nice collection of Autumn flowering narcissus, Gerd, impressive !

Here's for me just my second species flowering, a single flower of Narcissus serotinus but I hope more next year as it has been sown in march 2016 as Narcissus cavallinesii. As I have a third flower of cavalliesii, I will try to cross them even if I'm not a big fan of hybrid. Collecting and growing true species is already hard enough.

[Gerdk]

Ivain, 2 years until first flowers is pretty quick - congratulations!

Gerd

[Yann]

I sown serotinus (thx Rafa) in 2015 and the small bulbs gonna bloom in few days, it's really quick compare to other daffodils species.
Given the size of your clay pots Gerd, i can't image how many bulbs are inside to give these nice bouquets!

A shame the last days i missed several bloomings being back from work when it's dark 

[Gerdk]

Given the size of your clay pots Gerd, i can't image how many bulbs are inside to give these nice bouquets!

Yann,
You can easily count the number of bulbs when you look at the photo.
Please bear in mind that I don't show all of my pots - some are less noteworthy.

Gerd

[Robert]

Very nice and interesting photographs. It seems the autumn flowering Narcissus species would thrive in our part of California. My little seedlings have a long, long way to go! I can at least follow this thread and hopefully learn more about the various autumn species.

Thank you everyone for sharing. 

[annew]

I'm almost ashamed to show my autumn flowerers after Gerd's superb potfuls, but I need help with ID again..
I received a narcissus as N. elegans. One of the stems has 2 flowers. The leaves are wider than the one Gerd identified as obsoletus. The leaves are smooth when you run a finger along the back, whereas the N. obsoletus feels rough. The position of the anthers in the tube is the same in both. They smell different! The corona in the 'N. elegans' is darker and the perianth segments are mucronate.
First photos of 'obsoletus'

[annew]

Next is N. elegans? And last the 2 flowers side by side (elegans left, obsoletus right)
Hope you can sort them out for me 

[Gerdk]

Anne, I guess your plants were named correctly!

Narcissus elegans (Haw.) Spach has broader (than obsoletus) and glaucous leaves, which appear with the flowering stem. The corona is cup shaped, usually entire.

Narcissus obsoletus (Haworth) Steudel – corona 3 – 6 lobed, leaves dark green ,small,  rarely present on flowering plants.

Gerd

- please note -  I corrected the author names in my previous posts - confusion reached me too