Greece autumn 2018

[sokol]

Some more Galanthus reginae-olgae

[sokol]

Cyclamen are sometimes growing everywhere and it is not always possible to stop at the best places which are often road banks. But you can find them also in olive groves.

Cyclamen graecum

[Yann]

Great report!

[Gerdk]

Great report!

Yes! - and excellent photos.

Stefan, can you tell me (us?) please how to differenciate Cyclamen hederifolium from Cyclamen graecum when leaves are absent?


Gerd

[sokol]

This is difficult Gerd. I have named just plants with leaves to be sure.

Cyclamen graecum is growing at drier and sunnier places in full sun, whereas Cyclamen hederifolium prefers shadier spots. But of course this overlaps. I thought Cyclamen graecum flowers are less eared than Cyclamen hederifolium ones before I was in Greece last autumn but this is obviously often not true.

[sokol]

Still is the same biotope the only flowering Urginea maritima of the trip.







and a Cichorium species. I do not know whether it is the same as ours.

[sokol]

We went further to the west to lake Kaifa and the coast. A few Narcissus obsoletus were growing at the thermal springs.







And then we wanted to jump in the sea for the last time this trip and year, the temperature was above 25°C again. But we had to stop first as hundreds of Crocus boryi were growing in the dunes.

[sokol]

Last Crocus boryi of the trip.

[sokol]

And then the beech finally but just 2 hours left till we had to go to the ferry.

[sokol]

Departure to Ancona:









Arrival at Ancona next afternoon:



And driving home nearly 800 km.

[Gail]

Thank you for the report Stefan - love those pictures of the crocus on the beach.

Stefan, can you tell me (us?) please how to differenciate Cyclamen hederifolium from Cyclamen graecum when leaves are absent?

Gerd

Quote from Chris Grey-Wilson's book Cyclamen (2002 edition, published by Batsford and highly recommended)
"I have often been asked how to tell C. graecum and C. hederifolium apart in flower in the absence of leaves or tubers. This is not difficult despite the fact that both have similarly coloured flowers of more or less the same size and with prominent auricles. The difference really comes down to the markings at the base of the corolla which are consistently different; in C. hederifolium there are two broad, more or less V-shaped, marks at the base of each petal, whereas in C. graecum there are two similarly coloured thin (pencil line) V-shaped marks with a single thin line between them."

[Gerdk]

Thank you for the report Stefan - love those pictures of the crocus on the beach.

Quote from Chris Grey-Wilson's book Cyclamen (2002 edition, published by Batsford and highly recommended)
"I have often been asked how to tell C. graecum and C. hederifolium apart in flower in the absence of leaves or tubers. This is not difficult despite the fact that both have similarly coloured flowers of more or less the same size and with prominent auricles. The difference really comes down to the markings at the base of the corolla which are consistently different; in C. hederifolium there are two broad, more or less V-shaped, marks at the base of each petal, whereas in C. graecum there are two similarly coloured thin (pencil line) V-shaped marks with a single thin line between them."

Thank you Stefan and Gail!
@Gail: - yes ,this helps indeed! - and it can be verified when looking at Stefans pics!

Gerd

[sokol]

Thanks Gail, that really helps to keep the flowers apart!

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Thanks for the great report, Stefan !!  Excellent pictures and great finds !
I was with Yann on the trip he reported from at the beginning of this thread, this is a great supplement and inspiration for future trips ! 

[Yann]

next year?