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David Nicholson

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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #135 on: October 17, 2019, 07:12:46 PM »
Graeme,

Assuming you sent your application form to Arthur Nicholls ""Distribution will start in mid-October and will take four to six weeks so please don't enquire about missing seeds until December""

""CSE, Peter Moore and Jan Bravenboor seed will be listed separately. The list will be available on the Society website, or by emailing seedorders@cyclamen.org  ""
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #136 on: October 17, 2019, 07:19:51 PM »
Graeme,

Assuming you sent your application form to Arthur Nicholls ""Distribution will start in mid-October and will take four to six weeks so please don't enquire about missing seeds until December""

""CSE, Peter Moore and Jan Bravenboor seed will be listed separately. The list will be available on the Society website, or by emailing seedorders@cyclamen.org  ""
thanks David - I had e-mailed in for a CSE list but not had anything yet but an acknowledgment in June
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #137 on: October 18, 2019, 02:33:16 AM »
Arthur wrote the CSE list would probably be ready in early November.
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #138 on: October 29, 2019, 11:07:39 AM »
Big Cyclamen surprise this morning. Looks like I have Cyclamen persicum var autumnale in flower.

About 15 years ago I visited Peter Moore. While looking around I saw a few plants labelled Cyclamen persicum var autumnale. I asked Peter about them and he said he would sell me one on the condition that I didn't complain if it flowered in spring. It did flower magnificently - pink flowers a bit dumpy with leaves that looked a litttle different from the norm ...in the spring. I grew a few potfuls from seed and tried various things - they still all flowered in the spring.

This one is an escapee into the sandbed - at first I thought it was a out of season C. rhodense but I think it's persicum. Better flower than the original too. Hurrah!!



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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #139 on: November 04, 2019, 01:00:32 PM »
Here comes my Cyclamen persicum v. autumnale  :D
Seeds received from a nice plantfriend from Israel ( 2004 )
All my seedlings came true from seed !

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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #140 on: November 04, 2019, 01:54:16 PM »
Very nice, Hans!
A few plants are doing better than other years here:




Cyclamen (hederifolium) crassifolium ex 93073 plant 1
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Cyclamen (hederifolium) crassifolium ex 93073 plant 2

Plant 2 has flowers twice the size of plant 1 and is all together larger.

Also flowering are a few Cyclamen rohlfsianum;


« Last Edit: November 04, 2019, 10:06:55 PM by Maggi Young »

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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #141 on: November 04, 2019, 01:55:56 PM »
A few more Cyclamen rohlfsianum



« Last Edit: November 04, 2019, 10:09:04 PM by Maggi Young »

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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #142 on: November 07, 2019, 03:12:38 PM »
Interesting that the flowers are below the foliage
My general feeling for cyclamen is that flowers are taller than foliage.
Nice effect the way You took the photo Bart with almost black foliage
Nice plants :)
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #143 on: November 07, 2019, 11:05:50 PM »
I have the same problem with Cyclamen rohlfsianum.  I grow mine on a windowsill and do not start watering till the flowers appear.  The flowers come first and the leaves grow once I start watering.  I think they grow tall because they are not getting enough light. 
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #144 on: November 13, 2019, 09:35:18 PM »
I have a question for the experts: I attach photos of a Cyclamen found in the north of Peleponnese (Greece). I have found different Names in the literature which describe it as a subspecies of C. rhodium or C. repandum. However, I also found some indication that it is now recognised as a separate species: C. peleponnesiacum. Can you help me? I need the information for a publication...
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #145 on: November 13, 2019, 09:40:51 PM »
peleponnesiacum is a subsp of rhodium for somes and a subsp of repandum for others.
Having seen both in the wild i'll say that it's a form of repandum

Updated nomeclature is :

Cyclamen repandum ssp. repandum, Corsica and south of France
Cyclamen repandum ssp. repandum forma album, Corsica
Cyclamen repandum ssp. repandum var. barborense, Algeria
Cyclamen repandum ssp. peloponnesiacum, Greece peloponnese
Cyclamen repandum ssp. peloponnesiacum forma peloponnesiacum,  Greece peloponnese
Cyclamen repandum ssp. peloponnesiacum forma vividum,  Greece peloponnese
Cyclamen repandum ssp. rhododense, Greece Rhodes

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First published in Endemic Pl. Greece, Peloponnese: 239 (2001)
Not accepted by
Govaerts, R. (2001). World Checklist of Seed Plants Database in ACCESS E-F: 1-50919. [Cited as Cyclamen repandum subsp. rhodense.]

https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/Sauteria_1_0211-0222.pdf

and to had confusion here's a form found in Chios

« Last Edit: November 13, 2019, 10:09:24 PM by Yann »
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #146 on: November 13, 2019, 11:07:36 PM »
I have a question for the experts: I attach photos of a Cyclamen found in the north of Peleponnese (Greece). I have found different Names in the literature which describe it as a subspecies of C. rhodium or C. repandum. However, I also found some indication that it is now recognised as a separate species: C. peleponnesiacum. Can you help me? I need the information for a publication...
Cyclamen rhodium ssp peloponnesiacum

https://www.cyclamen.org/plants/species/cyclamen-rhodium/
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #147 on: November 14, 2019, 05:48:31 PM »
Thank you, SJW! Your answer corresponds to what I was told by Dr. Ottmar Funk today, a German Cyclamen specialist. The name is now C. rhodium spp. peleponnesiacum
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #148 on: November 14, 2019, 11:15:01 PM »
Thank you, SJW! Your answer corresponds to what I was told by Dr. Ottmar Funk today, a German Cyclamen specialist. The name is now C. rhodium spp. peleponnesiacum

A specialist indeed, in fact the Cyclamen Society sells Dr Funk's Cyclamen book.
https://www.cyclamen.org/publications/#1
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Re: Cyclamen 2019
« Reply #149 on: November 15, 2019, 04:37:02 PM »
That is good news!
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