Paeonia 2008

[David Nicholson]

Thanks for that Alan, just what I needed. Did you mean 'barmy' weather!?

[ian mcenery]

David I grow cambessedessii outside. It grows and flowers but is slow to increase. In our climate I think it likes shelter from harsh weather and too much water and also a little more sun that in its native habitat. I grow mine in a raised scree bed where it looks very nice. With more than one seedling plant some out !! what have you got to lose ??

[David Nicholson]

Thanks Ian.

[Hans J]

Here some new flowers from today :

P. daurica
P. macrophylla
P. 'Roselette" - this is a cross from Prof. Sauders (1950) - a triple hybrid ( P. lactiflora x 
( P.officinalis x P.macrophylla )

[Lesley Cox]

SRGC and AGS seed lists have Paeonia species listed. Alternatively, Vlastimil Pilous in the Czech Republic lists several species of seed each year. Email him aound Dec/Jan for a new list. (His address someone?) No doubt other eastern bloc collectors also list peonies.

[ashley]

Rob,

I'd suggest checking Phedar (http://www.phedar.com/catalog/) and the Archibalds (http://www.jjaseeds.com/) too.

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Wonderful pictures Hans ! 
I feel another addiction coming 

[afw]

Rob,
We have said it before & will say again, please buy/borrow RHS Plant Finder, which lists 22 nurseries selling P. cambessedessii, for instance, or go the the RHS site & search the Plant Finder site. You don't have to a member of the RHS to search the plant finder database.
Regards

Alan

[Diane Clement]

Talking of growing Paeonia from seed, I have always thought them to be hypogeal germinators (sending down roots in the autumn, then making new leaves the next spring.

Here's Paeonia tenuifolia from Holubec seed, sown January this year (OK, not a very sensible time to sow, but it's just when I receive the seed and I just assumed I would have to wait before anything happens).  But here it is, 4 months later, germinating.  As you can see, it is having difficulty shaking the seed coat off the cotyledons, and has already sent up the first true leaf.

The rest of the seeds are still there, under the grit, not showing any signs of doing anything

[Hans J]

Diane ,

the most perennial peonies germinate hypogäic ,but some species have a epigäic germination :
P. tenuifolia ,P. californica,P. brownii ,
from treepeonies have a epigäic germination :
P. rockii + P. linyanshanii

P. tenuifolia is one of the easiest peonies growing from seeds - the germinate mostly in the first year.

[Diane Clement]

Diane, the most perrenial peonies germinate hypogäic ,but some species have a epigäic germination :
P. tenuifolia ,P. californica,P. brownii , ...
P. tenuifolia is one of the easiest peonies growing fron seeds - the germinate mostly in the first year.

Thanks, Hans, I thought it was strange, I've grown several paeonias from seed but all with epigeal germination.  However, I've not succeeded with P californica and P brownii yet, so keep trying

[Maggi Young]

i have not looked into the SRGC seed list, how do i go about this?

Rob, the past year's seedlist is on the main SRGC website... you can read it to your heart's content but please be aware that the exchange is only open to SRGC Members and has closed for this year.
I think Ashley's advice for seed is very sound.

[Diane Clement]

Rob, the past year's seedlist is on the main SRGC website... you can read it to your heart's content but please be aware that the exchange is only open to SRGC Members and has closed for this year.
I think Ashley's advice for seed is very sound.

And if I may please also put in a plug for the AGS seed exchange, (every word of it typed by my fair hands, so you know who to blame for the mistakes    ).  To look at what you missed on last year's, click here

http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/servlet/htmlservlet/seeds/list.htm

and again, similar rules to the SRGC, the seedlist is only available to members and a good reason to join both of the societies.

[Hans J]

Hi all

- here some pics more from today :

P. arietina 1
P. arietina 2
P. arietina "Northern Glory" ( maybe a hybrid -this plant never produce seeds )
P.macrophylla

[Hans J]

P.banatica
P. clusii ( "normal white " )
P. 'Early Scout' a cross from Auten 1952 ( 'Richard Carvel' x P.tenuifolia )