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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #150 on: May 28, 2008, 01:26:14 PM »
Joakim
Thank you for your kind offer of seeds, but I might not live to see it flower.  also my garden is not THAT large
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #151 on: May 29, 2008, 08:21:29 AM »
Hi Rob ,

Shure I know Kelways –but I have never bougth anything from this nursery – so I cay say nothing.
But –I have bougth peonies from other ( well known ) nurseries in England –they are mislabeled and I had a lot of trouble to get back my money and only with th help from good friends it was possibly .

Prices for a P. rockii for a 3-5 year old plant from 80 –100 pounds are crazy !!!!

P. rockii grows fast and it will flower from seeds mostly after 5-6 years .

Sorry – before some months I had some seedlings from P. linyanshanii in surplus ( 4 –5 years old ) – this is really rare in Europe ..... but they are all away now ......

What should be this name P. suffruticosa v. rockii ? –this is complete silly !!!
P. rockii is a own species and not a variety or a subspecies .
Some chinese autors do not accept P. suffruticosa – they think it is a hybrid !!!
It exist a lot of hybrids from P. rockii ( typic are the blotches )

Pure P. rockii has a white stigma and white antheres –hybrids have pink or purple antheres .

To P. ostii : It is now really rare in nature – P. Fen Dan Bai ( White Phoenix ) is a cultivar which is near relatet –this plant gets in big quantities comercial grown ( for medicin use ).

Have I understand you right : you cultivate your treepeonies in pots ?
I can not suggest you this method – it is only possibly for a short time –peonies in pots is not well !!!

And at last : please buy books – old and new – and study ......study .....

With best wishes
Hans
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #152 on: June 07, 2008, 12:29:50 PM »
Hi all ,

here are now the last pics from peony flowers ( from my garden ) for this year
...the season is over !!!

P. Mrs. F.D. Rooseveldt
P. Mde . Jules Elie
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #153 on: June 07, 2008, 06:42:46 PM »

...the season is over !!!

...and here in Norway it's just started :) Paeonia ostii 'Fen Dan Bai' and a nicely coloured P. delavayi seedling (ex McLewin) below:


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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #154 on: June 07, 2008, 07:01:43 PM »
I visited Kelway's Nursery today and was very disappointed. Their Peony field was open to visitors, see http://www.kelways.co.uk/acatalog/Visit_us.html
it was difficult to see the plants as they were subsumed, and indeed topped, by weed growth and impossible to see the plant labels. What should have been a great marketing opportunity, with visitors seeking out their favourites from the field in the adjacent nursey, was totally missed. I decided to give the Peonies a miss and look at the Irises instead but refused to pay top of the range prices for potted plants covered in weed growth. We came away having spent nothing. It seems to me that Kelway's care little for their reputation apart from at Chelsea!   
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #155 on: June 07, 2008, 07:18:11 PM »
David ,

Come to Germany and visit with me :
http://www.graefin-v-zeppelin.com/Spezialitaeten.htm

We go near every year in this nursery and we are always satisfied - it is around 40 minutes from me
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #156 on: June 07, 2008, 08:01:10 PM »
Hans

There was an article in the Gardening Section of the Daily Telegraph on Oriental Poppies - a speciality of the Zeppelin nursery.  It pointed out that of the 8 Poppies to gain an Award of Garden Merti (AGM), 6 were bred by Countess van Zeppelin.  You are very lucky to have such an excellent nursery so close to you.
The paeonies you have shown us are a very good advertisement for the nursery.
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #157 on: June 07, 2008, 08:12:19 PM »
Arthur :

Have you not seen my pics of the Papavers ?

Look here : http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1839.0
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #158 on: June 07, 2008, 08:14:37 PM »
David ,

Come to Germany and visit with me :
http://www.graefin-v-zeppelin.com/Spezialitaeten.htm

We go near every year in this nursery and we are always satisfied - it is around 40 minutes from me

One of these days I may surprise you Hans ;D Thanks for the nursery link, it looks a good one.
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #159 on: June 07, 2008, 08:58:54 PM »
Arthur :

Have you not seen my pics of the Papavers ?


Hans
Of course - they are your wife's plants
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #160 on: June 08, 2008, 12:27:27 AM »
Art, I grow several different verbascums and my soil tends towards the acid. Rhodos do well here too. Likewise I have nursery vebascums in my pine-bark-based mixture so while they may like lime, they certainly don't NEED it.
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #161 on: June 08, 2008, 02:48:32 AM »
Hans - I was going to send you these pictures directly rather than post them here but do not see your email address. The pictures are very poor as light was very low tonight and I couldn't get a focus.

I got this peony many years from the late Don Armstrong in Vancouver, BC. It's identity has always been a puzzle and while not spectacular the early new shoots are quite fantastic. No one seems to know what it is. Perhaps you will know it.

Again apologies for the very blurry photos.

johnw
« Last Edit: June 08, 2008, 02:52:50 AM by johnw »
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #162 on: June 08, 2008, 08:53:31 AM »
Hi John ,

please send me a PM -so we can change our private email adress .

To your pics : this is a plant from the P. wittmanniana,macrophylla,steveniana complex .....maybe you can compere it with my pics ....

Very nice plants - my compliments !
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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #163 on: June 08, 2008, 07:00:00 PM »
And Molly in bloom here today. It took awhile the get the real thing and a yellow. This came from Ron Pal in Victoria, BC. 
Below is a seed grown white one (?) from Archibald seed, just gone over and somewhat of a disappointment; a sibling bloomed red.

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Re: Paeonia 2008
« Reply #164 on: June 08, 2008, 07:14:23 PM »
John
How did your white one compare with the one I showed in Iran 2008
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