Paeonia 2008

[johnw]

One of my favourites, 'Cytherea' (as in 'The Embarkation to Cythera' I presume) in bloom at a friend's here today.

Incredible colour and even better on a cloudy day.  If we have had a hardy magnolia this colour I'd stop sowing seeds.

johnw

[johnw]

Hans - Foliage of P. suffruticosa v. spontanea. Is this a valid name?

johnw

[Hans J]

Hi John ,

to your question for P. suff.v. spontanea .....this seems to be a minefield .......
I will try it and I will write from the book of I. Rieck :
P. s. v. spontanea was collectet from Purdom 1910 anddescriptet from Rehder -Hong Tao was the opinion that this is a hybrid and he found a similar plant which he descriptet as P.jishanensis ( 1992 ) -later after some critic from his collegues has he tried to rename this plant as P. s.v. spontanea - but some people disagree. Later after some research of the pollen morphologie ( Hond de Yuan + Pan Kai-yu 1999 ) was P. jishanensis guilty .
Stephen How ( 2001 ) has now in year 2001 tried to rename all to P. spontanea ( he thinks that the old material from Purdom has priority ).....thats the end of the story ( so far I know )

The first treepeony which ever was descriptet ( Andrews 1804 )was P. suffruticosa ...but this was a plant with double flowers ( flore plena ) ....so Andrews has descriptet a hybrid !

Now to your pic of your plant :
I have it compared with my plant of P. jishanensis .....but it looks different !

[johnw]

Hi John ,

to your question for P. suff.v. spontanea .....this seems to be a minefield .......
I will try it and I will write from the book of I. Rieck :
P. s. v. spontanea was collectet from Purdom 1910 anddescriptet from Rehder -Hong Tao was the opinion that this is a hybrid and he found a similar plant which he descriptet as P.jishanensis ( 1992 ) -later after some critic from his collegues has he tried to rename this plant as P. s.v. spontanea - but some people disagree. Later after some research of the pollen morphologie ( Hond de Yuan + Pan Kai-yu 1999 ) was P. jishanensis guilty .
Stephen How ( 2001 ) has now in year 2001 tried to rename all to P. spontanea ( he thinks that the old material from Purdom has priority ).....thats the end of the story ( so far I know )

The first treepeony which ever was descriptet ( Andrews 1804 )was P. suffruticosa ...but this was a plant with double flowers ( flore plena ) ....so Andrews has descriptet a hybrid !

Now to your pic of your plant :
I have it compared with my plant of P. jishanensis .....but it looks different !

Hans - I understand from Stefan Mattson that this plant is in gardens in northern Scandinavia and has a long history. Maybe it came via Russia ex Purdom (). He says from the seed you will get single pink and single lavenders flowers about 50:50. He did not mention any doubles.  Hopefully we will see some flowers next year.

Thanks for your work.

johnw

[johnw]

And Leto in the same garden. Nice interior. This turned out to be something else - not Leto.

johnw

[arisaema]

If you got the seeds from Sweden I'm pretty sure they are P. rockii-hybrids, it's widespread there, with flowers ranging from pure white to deep pink.

[Lvandelft]

Here is a picture of the original descibed P. suffruticosa from
Botanical Magazine, 1807:

[Lesley Cox]

Lucky Kerstin in Uppsala!

[Maggi Young]

Lucky Kerstin in Uppsala!

Yes, from the http://www.alltomtradgard.se/tradgardslistor/pioner/paeonia-rockii---hybrid/ link !
 I would be ecstatic to have a clump of rockii like hers!  not that there was much wrong with the clump belonging to Maria Sederkvist !

[johnw]

I amended the previous posting showing a shot of Leto.  This apparently is 'Leto' in a friend's garden.

johnw

[Maggi Young]

John, did you happen to notice whether or not 'Leto' is sweetly scented?  I have been inclined think that those peonies with "bristle brush" centres tend not to smell so good. I have made this observation as my nose and I make our way around the peonies of the district, when walking Lily the dog  Wondered if anyone else had noticed this phenomenon?

[Lesley Cox]

'Leto' is lip-lickingly lovely or luscious - or both.

[fermi de Sousa]

I posted a pic of this to the SH thread, but it's worth repeating here!
Paeonia cambessedesii, grown from seed in 1998, only it's third or fourth year of flowering,




cheers
fermi

[Hans J]

Hi Fermi ,

My compliments !
thats a really nice plant -it seems you have better conditions than I for this plants -I had never luck with them .

Hans

[Paul T]

Fermi,

It really is beautiful isn't it?  Was lovely to see it almost out when we were there.  Thanks.