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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2019, 08:39:45 AM »
Thank you Gerd!  This is exactly what I am hoping for: a set of characteristics that will help me identify.   I will be watching this spring.

Any other tidbits anyone can add is appreciated.
Viola alba and Viola odorata have distinctive stipule, broad for Viola odorata, linear for Viola alba. Differences can be viewed here : https://www.florealpes.com/comparaison.php?compar_code_1=violaalbadenar&compar_code_2=violettesuave&nouveau=1 (alba on the left, odorata on the right).
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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2019, 11:33:22 AM »
Yvain's  link does not  open for  me  - but  here are two to the  two species :
 
https://www.florealpes.com/fiche_violaalbadenar.php

https://www.florealpes.com/fiche_violettesuave.php
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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2019, 11:58:38 AM »
Thanks Maggi, it worked till the navigator is opened... I modified the link so that the comparison tool show both species, it just now need to select the picture of the stipules of each species.
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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2019, 12:10:52 PM »
Thank you!
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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2019, 12:45:00 PM »
By coincidence , just  seen this  post  on  Twitter  from Botanical Garden UPJŠ in Košice, Slovakia

"The white flowers of the Viola suavis just bloom. It is often confused with Viola alba, which is not growing in Košice and its surroundings. Viola suavis occurs with white or violet flowers in several places in Slovakia."



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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2019, 12:53:05 PM »
FloreAlpes is a great site, thanks to Franck Le Driant, and you can also compare Viola odorata with Viola suavis  ;D
https://www.florealpes.com/comparaison.php?compar_code_1=violettesuave&compar_code_2=violasuavis&nouveau=1
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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2019, 02:30:54 PM »
Yvain - very useful descriptive information! Thank you!

+ some pics made recently

1. Viola ambigua
2. Viola hirta
3. Viola spec. - perhaps a hybrid hirta/chelmea (difficult to differentiate when leaves are not developed)

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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2019, 07:41:54 PM »
I thought Viola growers might be interested in this Web Site. The Nursery in question and who have a National Collection of Violas, is situated in Dorset, just outside the small town of Bridport.

Our usual Wednesday trip out was to this Nursery the aim being to purchase a selection. Regretfully, and I should have been aware really, it was to late in the season either to view the Collection or to make purchases. I shall be going again in late Autumn.

https://grovesnurseries.co.uk/violets
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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2019, 09:10:53 PM »
Thank you David - an impressive offer!

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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2019, 09:19:45 PM »
I thought Viola growers might be interested in this Web Site. The Nursery in question and who have a National Collection of Violas, is situated in Dorset, just outside the small town of Bridport.

Our usual Wednesday trip out was to this Nursery the aim being to purchase a selection. Regretfully, and I should have been aware really, it was to late in the season either to view the Collection or to make purchases. I shall be going again in late Autumn.

https://grovesnurseries.co.uk/violets
I ordered 8 sweet/parma violets from them this spring; received good sized plants, quickly and very well packed.
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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2019, 06:54:21 PM »
Violets bursting into bloom in quantities

1. Viola epipsila
2. Viola uliginosa
3. Viola canina x uliginosa
5. Viola obliqua

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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2019, 05:42:45 PM »
+ additionally

2 pics of the shrubby Chilenian Viola rubella

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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2019, 06:42:14 PM »
Gerd,

Is rubella scented?
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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2019, 06:36:24 PM »
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Gerd,
Is rubella scented?

My wife said it is not. Sadly I cannot smell the scent of my favorite genus myself - so I have to trust her
(and I do)  :)

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Re: Viola 2019
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2019, 07:13:40 PM »
These are

Viola canina var. alba and Viola striata

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