Adonis seeds - seedlings

[Leena]

Because I had such a potful of seedlings I transplanted them after they went dormant in late summer. But they were so tiny! I think is best to grow them in the same pot for 2-3 years. Next time I get seeds (wink, wink... I'll use a bigger pot so they can develop nicely in it.

Thank you Gabriela, I have the ones germinated last year outside in a pot, and will leave them there until they go dormant next summer.
Let's hope there are seeds in the bigger plants also this year , I will remember you then!

[Gabriela]

Thank you Gabriela, I have the ones germinated last year outside in a pot, and will leave them there until they go dormant next summer.
Let's hope there are seeds in the bigger plants also this year , I will remember you then!

Thanks Leena
Hopefully there will be a nice Adonis flowering this spring

[Gabriela]

Hi Gabriela I got Adonis ramosa from Japan when I visited in 2015. I also got  number of other varieties of Adonis but  all died the following year. Got Adonis amurensis from Frazers thimble farm. Unfortunately I can't find any difference between A.amurensis and ramosa.
If any one in the forum knows about it please help.

If you opened this discussion Kris, indeed some species were included with A. amurensis and it was a bit unclear what's what and what name to use, but luckily there is a group of people working on the Adonis group from NE Asia and they published papers with Identification Keys.
Here are the links:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2287884X18301614

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2287884X17301437

When you plants start flowering look closely and take good pictures. If my division flower I will do the same.

[Rick R.]

According to the Flora of China, A. ramosa has glabrous leaves and A. amurensis has hairy leaves.
http://efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=100626

[kris]

According to the Flora of China, A. ramosa has glabrous leaves and A. amurensis has hairy leaves.
http://efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=100626

Thanks Rick.
I will take a good look at the plant this year. From my experience A.ramosa is a bit more robust than A.amurensis. Or may be it is because it is in a different spot.

[Gabriela]

Rick and Kris - Flora of China (the on-line version) albeit a monumental work, has the associated inconvenient of being largely outdated for many genera.
When available, it is always advisable to follow the most recent publications, especially for work done in the respective native habitats, like in the case of Adonis.
It may be years until the genus Adonis gets to be updated (if ever).

Of course, anyone can follow and adopt whatever name for a plant, as long as is validly published.

For those interested, here is the key from the publication I provided the link (2018). The articles also contain well done plates with images of plants recorded in the wild.
An updated checklist of Adonis (Ranunculaceae) from Korea, with a new locality record for Adonis multiflora:

[Rick R.]

When available, it is always advisable to follow the most recent publications, especially for work done in the respective native habitats, like in the case of Adonis.

Right.  I posted without seeing your  more recent data.  Also, the updates to the FOC after the initial work was done is no longer a collaboration of world botanists.  Updating is since being done by Chinese botanists.  Not to say this is necessarily a bad thing, but decisions are made with a smaller "big picture".

[Gabriela]

Right.  I posted without seeing your  more recent data.  Also, the updates to the FOC after the initial work was done is no longer a collaboration of world botanists.  Updating is since being done by Chinese botanists.  Not to say this is necessarily a bad thing, but decisions are made with a smaller "big picture".

I don't know who is still working on it but regardless, it is most probably that local floras for their various provinces are available and more up to date (albeit not accessible to us). And with the possibility to do lots of botanical field work they should be able to get quite a big picture by themselves, and with collaborations from the nearby countries sharing common species.

The little cutie flowered yesterday; the leaves are not very clear yet, so I abstain on the name for now.

[kris]

I don't know who is still working on it but regardless, it is most probably that local floras for their various provinces are available and more up to date (albeit not accessible to us). And with the possibility to do lots of botanical field work they should be able to get quite a big picture by themselves, and with collaborations from the nearby countries sharing common species.

The little cutie flowered yesterday; the leaves are not very clear yet, so I abstain on the name for now.
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Adonis amurensis? Very nice. From my observation Adonis amurensis flowers before the leaf comes out.

[Gabriela]

Adonis amurensis? Very nice. From my observation Adonis amurensis flowers before the leaf comes out.

This is the small Adonis division you sent me Kris (as A. ramosa), many thanks again.
When the leaves will expand further I would follow the ID key to see what species it fits. Indeed A. amurensis it is thought to be more precocious.

[kris]

This is the small Adonis division you sent me Kris (as A. ramosa), many thanks again.
When the leaves will expand further I would follow the ID key to see what species it fits. Indeed A. amurensis it is thought to be more precocious.

Gabriela I envy you. My adonis is still under snow.