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Gail

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Tree identification please
« on: June 09, 2019, 05:19:56 PM »
I've just visited Gateley Hall which is a very beautiful 18th century building near here. They have a gorgeous mature tree which I didn't recognise. The owner says it is a holm oak, but I really don't think so. The leaves varied but were mostly oak-shaped but the fruit is a bitter-tasting berry.
Anyone know what it may be.

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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2019, 06:04:02 PM »
 Mulberry?
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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2019, 07:41:26 PM »
Might they just be developing galls? (on oak)

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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2019, 08:05:49 PM »
Don't look like oak leaves.
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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2019, 08:44:23 PM »
Mulberry?
Mulberry went through my mind but this has clusters of individual berries rather than a multiple fruit, so it is certainly not Morus nigra.

And it doesn't 'feel' right for oak...
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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2019, 09:23:00 PM »
White mulberry? The leaves look mulberryish.
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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2019, 09:36:24 PM »
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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2019, 10:13:27 PM »
Doesn't look like a Holm oak leaf.
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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2019, 11:15:13 PM »
Decayed fruit?
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2019, 11:29:38 PM »
The fruit looked as though it were just ripening. I didn't try it but my friend said it tasted bitter.
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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2019, 12:03:11 PM »
Morus rubra? Unripe fruit would be bitter.
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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2019, 12:23:38 PM »
Doesn't look like mulberry fruit.

The mulberry is a drupe, somewhat like a raspberry.

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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2019, 01:57:48 PM »
Think the owner might be right, quercus ilex.

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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2019, 03:50:28 PM »
I cant tell you what it is, but it clearly isn't an oak. All oaks have a variation on the 'cupule with single seed' type fruit (i.e. an acorn). Not a mulberry either (the fruit looks wrong and the tree is way too big). If it didn't have the fruit in the picture I would call it a Turner's Oak which is a hybrid of Q. robur and Q. ilex (the holm oak), but it cant be that. Puzzling...
« Last Edit: June 10, 2019, 04:07:26 PM by Ali Baba »

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Re: Tree identification please
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2019, 08:12:04 PM »
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