Muscari and relative 2020

[Yann]

Another mystery muscari which came labelled as an allium!
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It's time to visit the ophthalmologist 

[fermi de Sousa]

Bellevalia macrobotrys from seed from Oron's Seeds of Peace sown 24-03-2018
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[fermi de Sousa]

First flower just 2 years from sowing Muscari pallens exJJA 0.690.550 - thanks, Ashley!
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Muscari pallens ex JJA 0.690-550 SRGC 2015 sown 21-05-2016
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[fermi de Sousa]

Muscari weissii originally from Marcus Harvey's Hillview Rare Plants Nursery.
Apparently it's now a Leopoldia
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[Yann]

Muscari weissii originally from Marcus Harvey's Hillview Rare Plants Nursery.
Apparently it's now a Leopoldia
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indeed now Leopoldia weissii

[Karaba]

It depends if you recognize the genus Leopoldia or not. I don't as other taxonomists.

[Yann]

It depends if you recognize the genus Leopoldia or not. I don't as other taxonomists.

I wasn't aware of any controversies about this genius.

[Karaba]

The position of Leopoldia has long been discussed. It seems now that no strict differences within Muscari s.l. appear and Leopoldia should be considered at the most like a subgenera. See : https://www.botanyconference.org/engine/search/index.php?func=detail&aid=373
Speta who splitted genus Scilla was also for only one genus Muscari and the last and nearly only published phylogeny of Muscari treated Leopoldia as a subgenus (Dizkirici · ‎2019)

[Yann]

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ayten_Dizkirici/publication/329200849_Molecular_phylogeny_of_Muscari_Asparagaceae_inferred_from_cpDNA_sequences/links/5bffe62845851523d1539baf/Molecular-phylogeny-of-Muscari-Asparagaceae-inferred-from-cpDNA-sequences.pdf

Just finished the reading of the document, very interesting.

Leopoldia subgenus is phylogenetically separated from the
other studied subgenera in the concatenated and matK tree
(98% and 97% bootstrap values, respectively) but its position
was not clearly recognized in the trees constructed based on
non-coding regions. Leopoldia species were paraphyletic and
form two sister clades (Clade C and D, Fig. 1), with the clade
C appeared in sister position to M. mirum. Leopoldia may be
distinguished by using several morphological characters

[Véronique Macrelle]

How do we cultivate Muscari spreizenhoferi ?
 I found this species in our SAJA plant fair, and I simply planted it in a raised bed, outdoors.
 this spring it did not bloom.
 now it has beautiful new leaves.
 I did not find much information on its needs.
 would it be better in a greenhouse?

[Maggi Young]

How do we cultivate Muscari spreizenhoferi ?
 I found this species in our SAJA plant fair, and I simply planted it in a raised bed, outdoors.
 this spring it did not bloom.
 now it has beautiful new leaves.
 I did not find much information on its needs.
 would it be better in a greenhouse?

The  plant  is  a Cretan endemic  ( Mediterranean island  plants  can be  more  tender) - and  flourishes  on the  nursery  of  Oron Peri  in  Israel - so perhaps  some  winter  protection is the  answer.

[Maggi Young]

From Zdenek Zvolanek:

"We are pleased with cooperation of fine Swede Johan Nilson. He helped us with new splendid cultivar of Pseudomuscari (Bellevalia) forniculatum ´Anglarna´from the BG Gothenburgh stable. It will be published in Spring Skalničky article by Václav Jošt."


Pseudomuscari (Bellevalia) forniculatum ´Anglarna´

"Václav Jošt prepares for Spring Skalničky an article about Bellevalia forniculata"


Bellevalia forniculata

[Yann]

How do we cultivate Muscari spreizenhoferi ?
 I found this species in our SAJA plant fair, and I simply planted it in a raised bed, outdoors.
 this spring it did not bloom.
 now it has beautiful new leaves.
 I did not find much information on its needs.
 would it be better in a greenhouse?

Véronique, greenhouse for this species, it doesn't like too much water and needs good ventilation. In the wild it grows in very sandy soisl, and often in pure sand and rocks chips. South of Crete.

[Véronique Macrelle]

Bellevalia forniculata and its cultivar are an extraordinary blue.

thank you Yann and Maggy for the advice.
not a bell therefore, if it must remain airy.
 I moved 1 in a pot and in the greenhouse.
For the other 3 I hesitate, because they seem installed, with already 3 leaves applied to the ground. the place is stony; over-raised, but even a roof will not prevent moisture from coming in by capillary action.
that said, they made it through last winter but did not flower.
I am amazed at their large bulb 3.5 cm in diameter compared to the small leaves.