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Gabriela

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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2020, 11:56:25 PM »
Beautiful Primulas from all! I need to grow a few more species, a bluish P. sieboldii would be more than nice.
Stefan - is that P. frondosa in wild habitat?

Only P. vulgaris ssp. are in flower here. I understand is practically only the flower color that distinguish them from P. vulgaris.
P. vulgaris ssp. sibthorpii (or hybrid), very early even by its standard, in full flower last week.

And a young P. vulgaris ssp. woronowii.


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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2020, 08:25:38 AM »

Stefan - is that P. frondosa in wild habitat?

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Hi Gabriela,
It is a wild plant found only in the Central Balkan Mountains, Bulgaria. A rare and protective species. The seeds are from Gatineau botanical garden - Canada.
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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2020, 11:44:12 PM »
Hi Gabriela,
It is a wild plant found only in the Central Balkan Mountains, Bulgaria. A rare and protective species. The seeds are from Gatineau botanical garden - Canada.
Regards,
Stefan

Sorry Stefan, I forgot to open this topic. Thank you, yes I know is endemic from Bulgaria that's why I thought maybe you had the chance to see it in the wild. Interesting you grew it from Canadian seeds origin :) I also have it in the garden, should start to flower soon.
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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2020, 01:16:25 PM »
Three Dodecatheons.

Dodecatheon media
D. pauciflorum (red)
D. pauciflorum 'Comet'

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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2020, 10:58:46 AM »
Primula sieboldii 'Kafka on the Shore'
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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2020, 08:29:11 PM »
Primula sieboldii 'Kafka on the Shore'

Nice sieboldii! with a good name :)

Dainty Primula mistassinica today (yes, there is snow on the ground)

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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2020, 07:01:11 PM »
Two very pretty Primulas from Barnhaven, the first is 'Sundae' and the second 'Raspberry Ripple'. :)
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Compilation shot of Primula sieboldii flowers 2020
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2020, 01:37:59 PM »
Compilation shot  of  Primula sieboldii flowers  from Olga Bondareva

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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2020, 04:25:51 AM »
I think this is Primula septemloba, grown from wild-collected seed.  It completely disappears in winter.
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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2020, 11:13:01 AM »
I think this is Primula septemloba, grown from wild-collected seed.  It completely disappears in winter.

Not  one  I am familiar  with - but, as usual, Pam Eveleigh's Primula World site  has  information.....
http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/photogallery.htm
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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2020, 06:11:27 PM »
1. Primula waltonii, sown 28 January 2018 from SRGC seed list 2017/2018-3090, listed as Primula ioessa. First flower opened 18 May 2020, other seedlings just start to flower now. It's not unattractive with its very deep claret flowers that become lighter with age, but I'm a bit disappointed that it isn't P. ioessa.
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2. Primula grignensis, or at least bought under this name. I don't see any difference with P. hirsuta.
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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2020, 07:58:03 PM »
Hello Andre, shame  about the  not-ioessa.

 I think the  differences  between grigensis and  hirsuta  are  very  slight  .....
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Primula grignensis D.M.Moser
Section Auricula, Subsection Euauricula
Type specimen: D.M. Moser s.n. 25 Mai 1996, Italien, Lecco, Cresta Cermenati, 1950m resides at G (specimen G00440611).

Reference paper: S. Creme & G.Cristofolini, Phylogeny of Primula Subsect. Euaricula - A case study on origin and evolution of alpine endemism, Ann. Mus. Civici-Rovereto 28: 135-159. 2013.
Epithet: Named for Le Grigne Mountains, Lake Como region , Italy.
Distribution: Italy

A close relative of P. valcuvianensis and P. hirsuta but distinguished genetically (See reference paper). This species is found growing on limestone on the Italian Grigna massif, above Lake Como. In the original description this species was compared with P. daonensis by having less sharply toothed leaf margins and calyx lobes actute, and compared with P. villosa by having smaller leaves and glandular hairs that are not red. Compared with P. hirsuta the calyx lobes are patent with the tube (spreading in hirsuta). This species hybridizes with P. auricula in the wild.
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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2020, 08:23:14 PM »
Thanks Maggi. I know that reference and have even compared the calyx lobes in photos of P. grignensis from the type locality and P. hirsuta* from other places. I can't find any difference whatsoever. The main distinction seems to be that P. grignensis grows on limestone, whereas P. hirsuta grows on acidic rock types. My plant seems happy enough without limestone, but that doesn't prove anything.

*Take this photo of P. hirsuta for example: https://www.biolib.cz/en/image/id142919/
The calyx lobes are not spreading at all.
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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2020, 01:23:45 PM »
Primula bella. Seed ex Holubec (as P. nanobella, which is considered a synonym). Sown on 22 December 2019 in a mix of equal parts ericaceous soil and grit with some sharp sand, stood outside without protection. First germination 19 February 2020. The tiny seedlings pricked out in May in ericaceous soil + grit, always kept damp and out of direct sunlight but without overhead shade. First flowering 2 October 2020. The flower is 13 mm across and the largest rosette is 2 cm across.

This is a high-alpine Chinese species (Yunnan, Baima Shan, 4400 m) which I expected to be difficult to keep alive, so I am pleasantly surprised how well it has done - so far. It even survived a heat wave with four days above 35 degrees Celsius. Whether it will survive the coming winter is another matter; I plan to give it some protection against winter wet.

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Re: Primula 2020
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2020, 05:55:36 PM »
Very nice and well done!
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