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Herman Mylemans

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Trillium 2020
« on: March 09, 2020, 10:42:48 PM »
It is more easy to put the Trillium's in topic Trillium 2020.
Trillium nivale suffers this year a lot from the rain.
Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum is doing quiet well.
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Herman Mylemans

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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2020, 05:49:58 PM »
Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum is going on well. Trillium nivale doesn't flower good this year.
Trillium ovatum between Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra'.
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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2020, 10:45:52 PM »
An impressing range already, Herman!
The first one to flower in my borders is this one with green flowers., Trillium chloropetalum or hybrid.


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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2020, 04:04:35 PM »
An impressing range already, Herman!
The first one to flower in my borders is this one with green flowers., Trillium chloropetalum or hybrid.
Mariette, it is a nice Trillium. How does it smell? Trillium chloropetalum smells like a rose. Can you take a picture of the ovary and later from the berry?
« Last Edit: March 16, 2020, 04:11:18 PM by Herman Mylemans »
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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2020, 05:31:16 PM »
it's a very nice Trillium Mariette !


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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2020, 08:06:53 PM »
It is very nice indeed. :)
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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2020, 12:48:03 PM »
News from Aaron Floden of  an open access article  (YAY!!)  on Trillium hibbersonii

Trillium hibbersonii (Melanthiaceae), a phylogenetically distinct species from western North America
DARLENE M. O’NEILL, SUSAN B. FARMER, AARON FLODEN, JAYNE LAMPLEY, EDWARD E. SCHILLING

https://www.mapress.com/j/pt/article/view/phytotaxa.436.2.9?fbclid=IwAR093ZWuhM7ZuTf1tn5TgTGTlT-LUZR5zTFI7dlwQ13ieIpqSlcbM9Lq48g

Abstract

Trillium Linnaeus (1753: 339) species have a reputation for being difficult to distinguish from one another, both on morphological (e.g. Freeman 1985, Schilling et al. 2019) and initial studies with standard plastid markers (Osaloo et al. 1999). Thus, the species that is sister to the rest of the Parideae, Pseudotrillium rivale (Watson 1885: 378) Farmer (2002: 687), was only recognized to be distinctive after DNA sequence data became available (Farmer & Schilling 2002). In the somewhat similar case discussed here, an entity that was considered to be only a form or variety of one species, T. ovatum Pursh (1803: 216), has turned out to be so genetically distinct that it is not even placed in the same clade as T. ovatum (Farmer 2006, Lampley et al. unpubl.).
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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2020, 02:33:34 PM »
Thanks Maggi and Aaron.
My few plants have been informed of their elevation in the (scientific) world ;) 
Seedlings are just appearing too.
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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2020, 06:50:28 PM »
Mariette, it is a nice Trillium. How does it smell? Trillium chloropetalum smells like a rose. Can you take a picture of the ovary and later from the berry?
Thank You, Herman, Véronique and Leena! It´s a trillium I like very much, raised from seed of the late Wolfgang Reich. He crossed several species like albidum and red chloropetalum and used the hybrids achieved to breed on with other selections. I don´t think my seedling is pure Trillium chloropetalum, yet more knowledgeable people may judge. The odour is rather disagreeable, I´d say. Unfortunately, it´s no rapid grower, but I was able to share seed the last two years.

Here are two closeups, sorry for the poor quality of the pics.




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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2020, 08:59:19 PM »
Thank You, Herman, Véronique and Leena! It´s a trillium I like very much, raised from seed of the late Wolfgang Reich. He crossed several species like albidum and red chloropetalum and used the hybrids achieved to breed on with other selections. I don´t think my seedling is pure Trillium chloropetalum, yet more knowledgeable people may judge. The odour is rather disagreeable, I´d say. Unfortunately, it´s no rapid grower, but I was able to share seed the last two years.

Here are two closeups, sorry for the poor quality of the pics.


Mariette, the stamens are bent outwards, that is not normal for chloropetalum. So I suggest that it is a hybrid but with what? Stamens bending outwards is more something for Trillium flexipes, but I don't think that, that is possible. Maybe it is a crossing with Trillium parviflorum.
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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2020, 07:34:12 AM »
Sorry, Herman, I´m afraid that´s an artificial effect, as I bent petals and stamens slightly outwards to show the ovary, too. As far as I learnt from Wolfgang Reich´s list he hybridized only among the sessile group. If of interest, I may take another pic of an undisturbed flower, they should be more open with the weather so fine now.
Wolfgang Reich offered also seed of greenish Trillium albidum-hybrid, I guess the green colour was recessively born in his red chloropetalum.

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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2020, 10:49:26 AM »
I'm anything but a Trillium specialist  ;D, but this Trillium rivale 'Purple heart' does well for me in the peatbed.  Not a fast grower though, this is a 5 year old plant.

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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2020, 01:30:37 PM »
I'm anything but a Trillium specialist  ;D, but this Trillium rivale 'Purple heart' does well for me in the peatbed.  Not a fast grower though, this is a 5 year old plant.
Luc, very beautiful rivale!
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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2020, 10:25:28 PM »
I spotted a nice clump of Pseudotrillium rivale seedlings in the garden taking advantage of the sunshine.  One is likely a seedling off of 'Purple Heart'.

Trillium kurabayashi seeds freely in the garden.
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Re: Trillium 2020
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2020, 05:14:45 AM »
Trillium all germinate right now? ?
is T grandiflora later? my only seedling from last year has not yet reappeared .. :(
I have about twenty seedling pots of all ages (0-5 years) which still do not show seedlings ...


the Trillium rivale are beautiful ..

 


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