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Author Topic: Zephyranthes and some other amaryllids... 2008-2009  (Read 45758 times)

Hans J

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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2008, 01:15:40 PM »
Yes Maggi - this plants Zephyranthes / Habranthus growing fine here in my climate !

 ::) maybe I should cross it with Cyrtanthus spiralis  ::)
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2008, 01:20:25 PM »
Beautiful pictures Hans.
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2008, 07:33:07 PM »
Hans, I have Z. La Buffa Rosa too but it is only a young plant and hasn't flowered yet. I can now look forward to next year.
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2008, 07:37:55 PM »
Hans, fine plant! Do you know the meaning of the name, really strange name?
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2008, 07:43:23 PM »
Alberto ,

yes I know it is a strange name - but I have not found much in the internet ....
I have read anywhere ( but where ? ) that some sientist will make a own var. or ssp. for this plants ....they look really a bit different from other Zephyranthes and the color of the leave is also different - also it seems they comes always true from seed .
The only I know is that they came from Mexico .....it is a bit mystery ....
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2008, 07:54:24 PM »
Thank you David !

thats a interesting information !
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2008, 08:03:10 PM »
I have found on the book "Bulbs for war climates" by Howard that la 'La Buffa Rosa' had to be written Z. labufarosea, a natural hybrid, whose name (La-bufa and not La Buffa) suggests the mountain on which it is found...Thus the name could be translated as "the pink mountain".

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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2008, 09:59:18 AM »
I'd always seen this written before as labuffarosea, rather than split up into 3 separate parts.  Interesting to know that the double f in that name was incorrect.  My plant purchased under that name a few years ago was unfortunately incorrect.
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2008, 02:22:30 PM »
I'd always seen this written before as labuffarosea, rather than split up into 3 separate parts.  Interesting to know that the double f in that name was incorrect.  My plant purchased under that name a few years ago was unfortunately incorrect.

This name question is an interesting coincidence for me. Only a week or two ago I used an image of this Zephyranthes in our local rock garden group's newsletter. I spelled the name "Labuffarosea" in the draft version. When the person who provided the image saw that, she requested that I change the spelling to "Labuffarosa". Now Alberto has provided a third possibility: "Labufarosa".

I'm still looking into this name question; I'll let everyone know what I find out on this end.

But I can tell you this about the commercial "Labuffarosa" under whatever name: it is a hybrid swarm and is extremely variable. To further add to the potential confusion, the purported parental species were once placed in different genera, one in Zephyranthes and one in Cooperia.

Take a look at this link to get an idea of the variation:

http://www.yuccado.com

And type Zephyranthes sp. Labuffarosa into the search box (and type it exactly as I have given it here with the period after sp). You will be very surprised to see how much variation there is in this hybrid swarm. Paul, you especially might want to do this because the plant you received might very well fall within this variation.

I believe that the proprietors of Yucca Do Nursery are responsible for introducing the commercial material currently distributed under this name.
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2008, 02:37:16 PM »
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2008, 10:24:11 PM »
This is the one I got some years before as Z. "Labouffarosea". I always knew that there have to be a correct name - now I call it Z.labufarosa, thanks Alberto.
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2008, 08:27:33 AM »
Renate :

I take a look this morning on IPNI for this name -sorry but it is not listet !
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2008, 11:00:28 AM »
Renate's looks more like mine does I think.  Maybe mine is correct after all!  I didn't realise it was a swarm with lots of difference.  I'll see if I can dig up a pic of it to post.  I also have some coming along from seed from a seed exchange.... I repotted them today.  Was amusing when I realised what it was, given the discussion going on here.
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Paul T.
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Re: Zephyranthes 2008-2009
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2008, 12:37:25 PM »
Please, the correct name is Z. labufarosea! (almost according to T. Howard).
Hans: on IPNI you will find only species.

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