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Scilla and relative 2021
« on: January 29, 2021, 01:50:52 PM »
Hyacinthoides flahaultiana
or at least, this is how I received (bought) it. It is so closed to Hyacinthoides mauritanica from northern Morocco (see Yann's picture from 2020) that I now have some doubt. At the moment, pedicel is shorter than bracts and this is more a caracter from H. mauritanica. In a other point of view, H. mauritanica from southern Portugal looks very different with the leaves protrate or lying on the ground and is in flower in mars-april-may with a very corymbiform inflorescence. It's very confusing and I understand why there was so many confusion between the two !
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2021, 01:54:00 PM »
Hyacinthoides arisitidis
This one has so lighting blue !

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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2021, 12:22:09 PM »
Bought as Scilla ingridae ssp. taurica, I'm afraid that it is just a Scilla siberica. It seems however more tiny (only 1 or 2 flower by scape) and earlier than other siberica. Any comments ?
« Last Edit: February 23, 2021, 07:19:59 PM by Karaba »
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2021, 08:11:23 PM »
Bought as Scilla ingridae ssp. taurica, I'm afraid that it is just a Scilla siberica. It seems however more tiny (only 1 or 2 flower by scape) and earlier than other siberica. Any comments ?
siberica very few doubt.

Scilla morisii, i grow them under sunny greenhouse location, in the wild it grows under shade among rocks.
Scilla messaniaca, from mister Vickery seeds, sow 6 years ago
« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 08:13:23 PM by Yann »
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2021, 08:14:01 PM »
Hyacinthoides arisitidis
This one has so lighting blue !
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2021, 09:47:21 PM »
Thanks Yann for confirming Scilla siberica, tant pis !

Scilla nana is starting to clump and is nice this year, better when not eaten by slugs...

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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2021, 05:44:00 AM »
nice..

but 6 years for flowered ?

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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2021, 08:44:46 PM »
Scilla armena didn’t mind freezing and is starting to bloom.
Scilla nana looks lovely.
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2021, 07:19:28 PM »
Scilla armena didn’t mind freezing and is starting to bloom.
This one is still missing...

Scilla morisii also start blooming here, and also Scilla albanica (thanks Yann)

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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2021, 07:28:13 PM »
Looking at Yann's picture of Scilla messaniaca, it seems that one of the two Scilla messenica/albanica need to be re-identified or there is a tiny difference that i didn't catch !
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2021, 08:21:09 PM »
Indeed, the differences between the two species are very slight. Both are sometimes in the new (ugly) genus Schnarfia
(from Barina et al. Taxonomy of Scilla albanica Turrill (Asparagaceae))

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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2021, 01:08:50 PM »
A lost-label scilla from Turkey. Any suggestions?


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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2021, 06:52:06 PM »
Not easy with this only picture (even with differents ones, it's not easy !) but it could be Scilla (Othocallis) ingridae
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2021, 07:21:56 PM »
Thank You, Yvain! I´m well aware of the difficulties concerning scilla, and I´m no specialist at all! What strikes me is that the flowers have a rather flat form, the inner side being lighter coloured than the outer. Stronger bulbs produce 1 stalk with 2 flowers and a shorter stalk with 1 from a pair of leaves. Perhaps these additional pics are helpful?






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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2021, 07:07:51 PM »
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