Scilla and relative 2021

[Tristan_He]

Chionodoxa sardensis.



...and seedlings!



Lost the label of this one but to judge by photos above it could be forbesii? Anyway it's looking glorious in the rockery at the moment.





Scilla bifolia. I'm trying to get this one going in the garden including in grass areas.

[Yann]

...and seedlings!

Funny here no seedlings at all.

[Gail]

Chionodoxa luciliae 'Alba'

[kris]

Chionodoxa luciliae 'Alba'
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I love that pristine white flowers

[Roma]

a couple of Chionodoxa/ Scilla.  Can't get used to the new names.
This one came as a stowaway in a clump of Galanthus from a friend.



This came from the Cruickshank Botanic Garden when I worked there.  We had several species and I'm sure they crossed so I'm not sure which this is.  The big white centre suggests cretica but it is a bigger flower.  There were even a number of x chionoscilla in one patch.  Not sure what they are called now

[Yann]

This genius is great, flowers are renewed for several 2-3 weeks.

[gote]

Self sown Chionodoxas in our town place. The clumps are all slightly different. It would be meaningless to assign names to them they are obviously a hybrid swarm. The Scilla bifolia is also self sown but in our country place. It does spread but very thinly and it does not vary. Both pictures from first week of April but not this year.

[Yann]

Hyacinthoides vicentina (thx Yvain)

[Yann]

Scilla leepii, escaped seeds from the greenhouse i guess by ants. many other leaves appeared around.

[Véronique Macrelle]

I love the fourth photo of Tristan!
Gote's self-sown chionodoxas are awesome too

[Mariette]

This hyacinthoides was given to me as H. non-scripta ´Ruth McConell´. It´s certainly a hybrid, and I´m not sure about the spelling of the family name - there are various versions of it. Does anybody know?

[Karaba]

Hyacinthoides vicentina (thx Yvain)

Northern France is definitively warmer than southern ! Mine (outside) are still not blooming.
Just 2 precisions :
- the true name is vincentina from cape Saint Vincent in Portugal. The name has been further mispelled but there was no mistake in the original description
- the statut of this taxon is still a bit controversy but it is between a variety and a subspecies : H. mauritanica subsp. vincentina or var. vincentina . I still dont know what to think about your H. mauritanica from around Tanger which is so early. Chouard (1932) still differentiate the 2 species (mauritanicus and vincentinus), Ortiz et al. (1999) stated vincentina as a subspecies and finally Grundman et al. (with Ortiz) lumped everything under H. mauritanica. Finally, Fennane et al. (2014) think that the presence of H. mauritanica in Morocco is doubtful ! I really don't know why... A thing that intrigue me : Shousboe distinguished H. italica from its new H. mauritanica, the former blooming in december (as your H. mauritanica) the latter in march. Still unclear to me, specially because I never went around Tanger, your H. mauritanica still didn't bloom and I'm not sure of my H. flahaultiana ...

[Gail]

This hyacinthoides was given to me as H. non-scripta ´Ruth McConell´. It´s certainly a hybrid, and I´m not sure about the spelling of the family name - there are various versions of it. Does anybody know?

I don't think it is a hybrid Mariette. It looks like one of the aberrant forms of the English bluebell (sorry about the common name, that is what we call them here! Hyacinthoides non-scripta is correct according to Kew.). These strange forms turn up from time to time in the wild. Maybe 25 years ago ? I used to subscribe to a newsletter from a guy who was interested in these genetic mutants of native plants, I think he had quite a collection of them. Unfortunately I can't remember his name and google isn't being very helpful. I did find that Avon Bulbs list a blue and a white one;
https://www.avonbulbs.co.uk/autumn-planted-bulbs/hyacinthoides/hyacinthoides-non-scripta-var-alba-form-of-bracteate

[Maggi Young]

Roland Janssen - "bulborum" is very  interested in these  "odd" bluebells - he's not around the  forum much these  days- being a  convert to  Facebook, but  perhaps it's worth  contacting  him ?   bulborum@gmail.com       

[Mariette]

Thank You, Gail and Maggi! The picture was taken when the plant just started to flower, but now the flowers are definitely bell-shaped. Together with the broad leaves and the flowers being arranged around the stalk, it´s most likely a hybrid.  Incidently, I´m living close to the very few spots in Germany where Hyacinthoides non-scripta grow wild, and visit these woods every year. Occasionally it´s difficult to tell a hybrid from the true species, but most special forms collected in Britain,  like ´Amy Doncaster´and ´Green Lashes´, are hybrids, though often labeled as Hyacinthoides non-scripta. My personal preference is for the true species, as pictured in this bracteate form.