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Paul T

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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2010, 08:42:39 AM »
Nice, Fermi.  Both definitely different markings to my triste.  Mine is only small as yet, but if it multiplies I'll send you a piece to give you 3 colour forms (and increase your chances of seed  ;D).  I am guessing that likely not self fertile, so mine is unlikely to set seed by itself unfortunately, Mark. ::)
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2010, 01:01:37 AM »
Fermi, those two couldn't look more different. I also have doubts about the triste we grow, much like your second pic.
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2010, 09:31:32 AM »
from memory P. triste is night scented. Below is how my two looked before being killed by the winter of 2010

Sorry to hear you lost these, Mark, they really look wonderful in your photographs.
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2010, 11:45:08 AM »
Thanks RR. Have you seen these? http://marksgardenplants.com/pelargoniums4.htm each small photo can be clicked to reveal the larger photo
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2010, 12:20:12 PM »
P. caffrum and schitzopetalum are very nice ones  ::) Is the almot black one P. sidoides ?
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2010, 06:45:13 PM »
We were at Stourhead on Sunday.  Richard Colt Hoare, who owned Stourhead in the early 1800's, had a collection of some 600 Pelargonium varieties and the National Trust are trying to recreate a collection of historic varieties.  The original conservatory is long gone but they have bought a Victorian glasshouse from a garden in Sussex to house the collection.

somehow i fell behind on this thread--some lovely things there, gail! imagine having so much space around the plants! i think its clear enough now that pellies are not plantae non gratae here  ;D

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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2010, 06:50:03 PM »
nice ones, fermi--and i didn't know there were australian pellies!

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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #52 on: November 01, 2010, 08:46:18 PM »
Pelargonium quercifolium, grown from seed, has survived on my roadside
for 14 years.  It got killed back one bad winter, but recovered in spring.
It has produced a couple of seedlings.
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2010, 12:09:24 AM »
Pelargonium quercifolium, grown from seed, has survived on my roadside
for 14 years.  It got killed back one bad winter, but recovered in spring.

Hi Diane,
that looks similar to one we have in the garden - originally growing in a tub, but escaped via the drainage holes as "root cuttings" when we moved the pot! Are the leaves scented?

Cohan,
there are a few Aussie pellies - almost unknown in most Aussie gardens! The Native Plant growers seem to be the only people familiar with them. A local one is Pelargonium rodneyanum which is a brilliant magenta and a thrill to discover growing nearby (our plants were bought from a nursery - Not dug out of the bush!)

Another South African one making itself at home in our Rock garden (and here just in the pathway!) is Pelargonium iocastrum,
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2010, 12:19:55 AM »
Nice, Fermi.  Both definitely different markings to my triste.  Mine is only small as yet, but if it multiplies I'll send you a piece to give you 3 colour forms (and increase your chances of seed  ;D).  I am guessing that likely not self fertile, so mine is unlikely to set seed by itself unfortunately, Mark. ::)
Paul,
it would be great to have another form!
The Silverhills form that I have does set seed - possibily because there was more than one seedling originally but I think the one from Lara also set a few seed last year. The trick is being around when they ripen and before they disperse ;D
Mark,
Pelargonium alchemilloides (from you as seed) is now self sowing in the shade-house and the gravel area outside! In the sun it develops much more marked ("zonal") foliage. I'll try to take a pic soon. We've donated seed of it to the AGS Seedex recently.
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2010, 12:46:57 AM »
Yes, my quercifolium has a distinct strong scent when rubbed. Not pleasant
like most pelargoniums.  I can't decide what it resembles. A bit like gasoline? (petrol)
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2010, 04:37:52 AM »
Yes, my quercifolium has a distinct strong scent when rubbed. Not pleasant
like most pelargoniums.  I can't decide what it resembles. A bit like gasoline? (petrol)
Sounds like the same one we have.
I'll try for a pic later.
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2010, 06:12:07 AM »
Cohan,
there are a few Aussie pellies - almost unknown in most Aussie gardens! The Native Plant growers seem to be the only people familiar with them. A local one is Pelargonium rodneyanum which is a brilliant magenta and a thrill to discover growing nearby (our plants were bought from a nursery - Not dug out of the bush!)
cheers
fermi

good to know, hopefully we will get to see pics of them; i'm always interested in australian natives, since few of them seem to be well known, certainly true of the few succulents--almost never heard of in cactus and succulent circles..

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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2010, 10:06:04 AM »
Good to read my P alchemilloides is doing OK. If only it had larger flowers. One of my plants survived -11 last winter

P. iocastrum is so small and cute. You will have to collect the seeds as soon as you see them. They are tiny and once they fall you will never find them. This is my finger beside a flower.
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Re: Pelargonium species
« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2010, 10:13:39 AM »
Link to Fibrex website - http://www.fibrex.co.uk/index.asp
P. australe Inland form, fruiting.  Many of the pelargoniums are as attractive as pulsatillas when seeding.

If only the rarer Pelargoniums would set as much seed as P. australe. It should be hardy in most of the UK. Woottens have a prostate form with small flowers which may be the Tazmanian form or another species
http://www.woottensplants.co.uk/plview.asp?ID1=1674#thumb

This is a plant that self seeded in to my crevice bed
« Last Edit: November 02, 2010, 10:24:03 AM by mark smyth »
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