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TC
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July 16, 2024, 02:11:15 PM »
I noticed this Arum flowering among a large clump of Arums with white flowers and marbled leaves. The one in the picture is smaller and the leaves are just green. It has also flowered some weeks later. I grew my Arums from seed and they have been in at least 10 years. Is this one a hybrid or a rogue seed that got sown with the originals?
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Tom Cameron
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July 16, 2024, 03:29:55 PM »
That's Arisaema candidissimum, maybe a rogue seed or bulblet that reached maturity?
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Véronique Macrelle
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July 16, 2024, 05:46:04 PM »
incredible to obtain this species by a rogue sowing!!!
it is beautiful.
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TC
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July 16, 2024, 07:36:36 PM »
Thank you for the I.D. It is growing next to a large clump of Arum italicum Pictum. All the arum seeds were from the seed exchange and sown at the same time about 10 years ago. The arums flowered after a few years and are increasing., there must have been an arisaema seed among among the arums and that is why I thought it was a "hybrid" or rogue seed. Since I posted my request, I noticed that another flower is growing.
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Tom Cameron
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July 27, 2024, 05:10:14 PM »
I hope Tom doesn't mind if I piggy-back here.
Can anyone please identify this monocot with pleated leaves & orange roots?
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Ashley Allshire, Cork, Ireland
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July 28, 2024, 01:27:01 AM »
Possibly a Cypella or whatever genus it's in now,
cheers
fermi
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Mr Fermi de Sousa, Redesdale,
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July 28, 2024, 12:39:35 PM »
Thanks for the lead Fermi.
It'll be interested to see what it turns out to be.
This spring a volunteer tropaeolum appeared in recycled potting mix which turned out to be
T. argentinum
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I've never grown this or knowingly had seed, so its origin is a complete mystery.
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Ashley Allshire, Cork, Ireland
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July 28, 2024, 12:49:03 PM »
Quote from: fermi de Sousa on July 28, 2024, 01:27:01 AM
Possibly a Cypella or whatever genus it's in now
Cypella aquatilis
looks like a possibility. Time will tell.
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Ashley Allshire, Cork, Ireland
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July 29, 2024, 05:38:30 AM »
Tropaeolum argentinum
is a really nice surprise for a ‘guest plant’! It's very pretty. Do you know if it's a perennial or an annual?
Could it be a seed that came from the compost when you bought it?
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ashley
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July 29, 2024, 11:25:56 AM »
No Véronique, I don't know whether it's perennial, but recently moved it to a deep pot in case it wants to produce tubers. The plant is vigorous so although it's just begun flowering I should get plenty of seed.
My potting mix is home-made (garden topsoil, leaf mould, grit, sharp sand) but I recycle it almost endlessly. The only possible source that I can think of is seed received as T. azureum from seed exchanges 2-3 times over the years that unfortunately I had no success with. So presumably this is a late germination (after 3 years or more), but welcome ☺️
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Ashley Allshire, Cork, Ireland
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July 29, 2024, 02:48:13 PM »
Ashley
Make sure you get any seed you can - I only grew it once and mine was definitely annual, but I didn't manage to get any ripe seed.
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Jon Evans
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July 29, 2024, 04:19:05 PM »
Thanks Jon. I'll try to get some back to the exchange.
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Ashley Allshire, Cork, Ireland
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July 30, 2024, 05:42:05 AM »
I can't get my Tropaeolum perennials to germinate either, but as I also recycle my compost ... one day I might have a nice surprise like this?
Already this year, I've got 3 Arisaema that germinated like this
. It's not difficult to identify them as a genus or family, but for others it's sometimes more difficult.
I like surprise plants like that! There's some suspense... Did you quickly work out that it was in the Tropaeolum genus?
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July 30, 2024, 02:44:49 PM »
Yes I agree Véronique; surprises or mysteries like this can be fun.
For my few perennial tropaeolums where germination may be unreliable, I root a few small tip-cuttings in water at the end of each season as a back-up.
Yes this one was recognizably of that genus, but new to me, very soon after it germinated.
Here's another surprise plant that germinated beside a little citrus plant from a local supermarket, but probably originating from a Dutch nursery.
Initially I thought it might be
Saxifraga stolonifera
, but clearly it's not. Any suggestions?
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Ashley Allshire, Cork, Ireland
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July 30, 2024, 04:05:32 PM »
it could be
Viola variegata
, (often called
Viola koreana
ou
grypoceras var exilis
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