Chen Yi's evergreen "Omphalogramma H-21" - What is it?

[Tony Willis]

I have H50 and it is an omphalaogramma which I have flowered,not very exciting to see.

[gote]

I got a plant which I believe is Chrysosplenium macrophyllum as an unnamed gift some three years ago.
It differs from the ones above by being hairy so it could be another sp.
The flower stalks elongate later but the flowers open low.
I love it because it flowers so early.
the "crystalline" flowers are also unusual and beautiful.
The problem with it is that it has runners half a metre long. I still have to find the proper place for it.
I have never had any real frost damage. I think that this is natural aging.
I am in Mid-Sweden Swedish zone 3-4 or thereabouts.
The last two winters have of course been unusually mild.
Göte

[Maggi Young]

Yes, Göte, I can clearly see the hairs on the leaves in your second photo. How pretty the pink and white  is, really crystalline, as you say...... waiting for mine to flower next year, I hope!

[Sinchets]

Lol- does anyone else agree that buying things from ChenYi is the botanical version of the lucky dip bags you used to get at the sweetshop as a child? I've had what was supposed to be an orange Scilla- well i was hoping a bit there- which turned out to be a Rumex 
i wonder if they employ 'prenursery botanists' to go out and do the collecting!

[gote]

It is definitely lucky dip. I also received a Rumex as Scilla. 
On the other hand I received Lilium lijiangense instead of Lilium rosthornii which I received instead of L henryii. 
Göte

[Sinchets]

It is definitely lucky dip. I also received a Rumex as Scilla. 
On the other hand I received Lilium lijiangense instead of Lilium rosthornii which I received instead of L henryii. 
Göte

We ordered Lilium bakerianum in 3 different varities, which turned out to be the 9foot monsters we had already bought as L.bakerianum from rareplants, and i think L.cernuum from another nursery. The monster was attractive, but when you get the same plant 3 times and it's not what you wanted you start to despair. We vowed never again. We have however just noticed a new online shop offering a very similar list, but without species names -  guess you  have to  accept it's a lottery with that one.

[gote]

It would be interesting if you could post a picture of the monster. Does it have green bulbils?
Would you sell one of them to me in the summer?
I think that Rare Plants buys from CY and re-sells and has done so for many years.
Göte.

[Sinchets]

It would be interesting if you could post a picture of the monster. Does it have green bulbils?
Would you sell one of them to me in the summer?
I think that Rare Plants buys from CY and re-sells and has done so for many years.
Göte.

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Sadly i no longer have pics- i lost many pics in a diskdrive disaster-  new moto backup, backup, backup!- I am guessing it is Lilium sargentiae and it has copious green bulbils. It grows shorter here- maybe 6foot max compared to 9foot in the UK. I am more than happy to send, sell or swap bulbils.
Simon

[Hjalmar]

The reawakening of this thread reminds me: My Chrysosplenium macrophyllum got more hairy later in the summer, so probably it is the same plant as Göte's.
I am looking forward to spring, we have about 10 cm of snow here but it is melting.

[gote]

It seems that everyone has got Lilium sargentiae including myself. I assume that it has been very easy to propagate with all those bulbils.
I grew one from seed many years ago that strain had next to no bulbils. Unfortunately it was not sufficiently frost hardy.
We will see what happens now with the coldest winter for half a decade.
Göte
 

[Sinchets]

It seems that everyone has got Lilium sargentiae including myself. I assume that it has been very easy to propagate with all those bulbils.
I grew one from seed many years ago that strain had next to no bulbils. Unfortunately it was not sufficiently frost hardy.
We will see what happens now with the coldest winter for half a decade.
Göte
 

Yes i guess this is the fallback Lily- for when stocks run out of the good stuff- if there ever really is good stuff!

[gote]

It depends upon what you mean by good stuff.
If you do not think that Lilium lijiangense, amoenum, papilliferum, lankongense ochraceum, Cardiocrinum giganteum, Erythronium japonicum,  which I all have got from CY, are good stuff
That is of course your evaluation.
Göte

[Sinchets]

Maybe you were lucky and your order was at the top of the pile- so you received more of the things you had ordered- as far as my evaluation selling Rumex as Scilla is unforgiveable!

[gote]

I do not think that these mistakes are intentional. Many things I have ordered have been indicated as 'sold out'. It is not so that common things are given fancy names deliberately.
 
I ordered the rather common L henryii and received the, at that time practically unknown, L. rosthornii The books stated that it had not been seen alive for a hundred years. (By westerners. It is not uncommon in parts of China). When I ordered a second L rosthornii I got L lijiangense, described as late as 1986. Papilliferum I got as "Sp red". Ochraceum as "nepalense var." (more or less right depending upon wheter you are a splitter or lumper) I got Epimedium brachyrrhizum as "Epimedium sp" and pauciflorum under another number. I have further got an Epimedium that is not in the Stearn book. Allium ovalifolium I got under the correct name.
 
If a mistake means that I get plants that have not been seen in the west for a century (and never grown)  I forgive the Rumex-Scilla. If theChinese handle scientific names the way Japanese do it could be a translation error since that mistake has been repeated.

Göte

[Sinchets]

For me though this means the plants aren't, and indeed can't be, nursery cultivated or the mistakes would be clearly visible. I guess you have had a good experience, mine wasn't.