Polygonatum, A pictorial guide

[bulborum]

Hello Aaron                        « Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 02:55:59 AM »

Are you sure of the name Polygonatum_multiflorum4.JPG in reply 5 
I think it is P.biflorum or a hybrid
the flowers are to big for a Polygonatum multiflorum
after the weekend I will post different Polygonatum multiflorum pictures
I have to build up my last spring show stand today

And some pictures from bought as Polygonatum punctatum ex Chen Yi
and Polygonatum oppositifolium ex Chen Yi

Roland

[julian]

Hi!
Returning to the little plant sometimes wrongly labelled roseum. I suspect that Kanchenjunga may be a red herring. We (Desirable Plants) had it on the understanding that it was from a KEKE collection, but we never had a number. It seems identical in every way to one of the SBQE plants, and I'm starting to suspect that someone mixed the origin up.
Incidentally, it's self fertile.
Julian

[bulborum]

Hello Julian

Do you have information about the SBQE plant
and if possible pictures

Roland

[Afloden]

Roland,

 In response to the P. multiflorum -- I believe your right. That plant is one of my P. hybridum clones. You can see the angular stems on it.

Julian,
 
 The plant you offfer looks like two of the three clones of the SBQE collection I have. The third clone I have has more narrow leaves. The plant from you has flowered and it has fruits, the SBQE plants have not yet flowered for me, but I have seen photos of it in flower and it has the same little pink flowers with recurved tepals. If the plant is a KEKE collection do you know which number? Are there corresponding herbarium specimens? I am still trying to find the actual collection information for the SBQE collection also.

 It is my understanding that P. hookeri and P. graminifolium are also self fertile, but I have only flowered both once and cannot keep P. hookeri alive for long. This plant I would assume is somewhere closer to P. prattii, but clearly distinct.

 Aaron




 

[Maggi Young]

Welcome to the Forum, Julian, good to  have your contribution.

Good luck with sorting out the collection numbers/details, Guys!

[David Nicholson]

Welcome Julian good to have another 'local' on the Forum.

For those who don't know it here's a link to Julian's Web Site.

http://www.desirableplants.com/page2.html

[julian]

Hi! Thanks for the friendly welcome.

Roland - Sorry, I don't have a picture of the SBQE plant, but I'll try to take one soon.

Aaron - we were never given a KEKE number with that plant, we were simply told that it was from a KEKE collection. But I think the person we had it from got it in turn from Ron McBeath. These together add to my suspicion that it was actually an SBQE collection, and KEKE came in only in a moment of forgetfulness. We could probably check that by going through the original KEKE collections list. Sorry, I seem to be adding doubt not enlightenment here.

We have a few plants which haven't been pictured here yet, I think (forgive me if I've overlooked them) and several problems I'd appreciate views on. To start with, here's a yellow(ish) flowered so-called kingianum we had from Crug about 7 years ago. They told us it's NOT one of their own collections, and strongly implied that it wasn't bought in from Chen-Yi or similar. Notable for really good coppery brown young foliage if grown in reasonably good light, which lasts beyond flowering. Although it's got really cirrhose tips and will be semi-scandent given the chance, the stems are self-supporting even when grown in pots (see Aaron's earlier comment). Mind you, the Chen-Yi plant stands up in pots here, as well. Anyone have any experience of this plant or know its origin? Hope I've discovered how to attach photos... Just finished flowering now, so I can't picture a dissected flower.

Julian

[julian]

another attempt at the pictures

[Philip MacDougall]

  If any group of plants screams for a horticultural treatment these would be them. It's a bit of a mystery to me. Perhaps no-one is familiar with them as a group. So many new ones from China. Lump in Maianthemun (yes the botanists have done their thing to it ), Smilacina, Disporum, Disporopsis, Prosartes and the numerous variagated selections and you have more than enough for a book. This forum is by far the most informative guide I have seen to them.
  The tall selection in the picture is interesting not only for height, now approaching 14 feet, but also as the flowers start held upright before desceding to the more typical suspended position.
  Polygonatum kingianum
  Polygonatum odoratum  Red Stem

[Philip MacDougall]

And a few more.

[johnw]

If that's the kingianum you brought us last year we're off tomorrow to buy stilts.

johnw

[bulborum]

Polygonatum filipes just in flower

Roland

[annew]

Just dipped into this thread - what a fabulous red flower on Polygonatum kingianum! Is it hardy outside? I see you have it in a greenhouse.

[bulborum]

Hello Anne

Good to see you here
this one is not completely hardy and is wintergreen
my experience  is that if they are outside they hardly flower
because there growing season is to short

Roland

[annew]

That explains it. It looks very exotic.