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Thomas Huber

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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #135 on: September 17, 2008, 03:15:55 PM »
Especially as a reminder for Pat - Colchicum pusillum:
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #136 on: September 17, 2008, 03:18:18 PM »
Anthony - you could win the prize.  I have never had Asarums, but I have had Hermodactylus.  Will watch as it grows.
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #137 on: September 17, 2008, 03:34:56 PM »
Hermodactylus tuberosus  look like that too, but I do have some colchicums that have tubers, rather than bulbs, not too dissimilar to these.

Anthony, I think colchicums grow from corms (a storage organ formed mostly from stem tissue), not bulbs (a storage organ with a core of stem tissue surrounded by modified leaves which serve as the primary storage structures).

And I've seen some of the ones with long, sausage-like corms which move horizontally in the style of rhizomes (rhizomatous corms anyone?). Those of Colchicum soboliferum are a good example.

Have you ever noticed the resemblance between these long colchicum corms and the corms of the tropical climbing lilies of the genus Gloriosa? In modern arrangements, both Colchicum and Gloriosa are placed in the family Colchicaceae.
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #138 on: September 18, 2008, 10:11:31 AM »
Thanks Thomas for posting the photos of Colchicum pusillum. So white and perfect.
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #139 on: September 18, 2008, 01:30:33 PM »
My pleasure Pat!
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #140 on: September 18, 2008, 03:25:58 PM »
Thanks Jim for the clarification. Sometimes I find it difficult to work out whether something is a corm, a rhizome, a bulb or a tuber.
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #141 on: September 19, 2008, 05:06:44 PM »
Just came back yesterday from Chios - Greece where Colchicum variegatum is in flower from sea level up to 600m. Almost always around Pine trees.
Flowers on mature plants can reach 12cm in diameter, usually 5-10cm
Only one to two flowers on each bulb.
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #142 on: September 19, 2008, 05:17:07 PM »

Very nice, Oron.

Colchicum variegatum
is blooming today here in USDA zone 7 Maryland, USA.
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #143 on: September 19, 2008, 07:18:25 PM »
Lovely Oron.
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #144 on: September 19, 2008, 07:48:25 PM »
Colchicum variegatum today in East Germany. No sun no nice pictures.
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #145 on: September 19, 2008, 08:10:18 PM »
Jim, not 3 and not 6 anthers. Nevertheless it`s a colchicum. Colchicum macrophyllum
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #146 on: September 19, 2008, 08:19:29 PM »
Hagen
lovely C. macrophyllum, does the two species set seeds in your climate?
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #147 on: September 19, 2008, 08:40:18 PM »
No, Oron, I haven`t seen ever seed(capsule) on my plants. But the leaves aren`t too big and the flowers suggest a spring in autumn time.
We await the winter here next time (from december and later).
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #148 on: September 19, 2008, 11:11:18 PM »
Jim, not 3 and not 6 anthers. Nevertheless it`s a colchicum. Colchicum macrophyllum

Very nice, Hagen. I don't grow Colchicum macrophyllum yet.

Maybe we should have a new genus for your plant:  how about Crochicum or Colchiocus?  :) ::)
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2008
« Reply #149 on: September 19, 2008, 11:50:51 PM »
Thanks Jim for the clarification. Sometimes I find it difficult to work out whether something is a corm, a rhizome, a bulb or a tuber.


So do I, Anthony! One reason I made that post was to revive the ongoing discussion of what these terms mean. I'm anticipating some vigorous, contrasting points of view -   and, I hope, some merry repartee to go with it.  ;)
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