Gentiana

[Blue-bellied Frog]

I have some Gentiana grown from seeds and I'm not sure I always get what is suppose to be.
I hope someone can help me  for identification.
The first was named G.acaulis.

[Blue-bellied Frog]

This one is G. przewalskii ?
I did not saw any picture on the Web.

[Blue-bellied Frog]

And a last one for tonight, sopposed to be G. purpurea.

[Heather Smith]

Gentiana purpurea (the Great Red Gentian), autumn flowering, is not on this page, though I like the ones that are.

[Lesley Cox]

And the first one is certainly NOT G. acaulis which grows on a low mat and has a large, trumpet shaped flower, usually primary blue.


If you like to send me your postal address in a private email I can send you some reasonably fresh seed.

[Paddy Tobin]

Bernard,

Great photographs and excellent plants.

Paddy

[ranunculus]

I will investigate your images tomorrow Bernard and try to identify them for you.

[Blue-bellied Frog]

Cliff, I'm waiting.
Paddy, thanks you.
Lesley, sure I will.
Heather, I know it is not G.purpurea, but I would like to know is name. This Gentiana was my first try to have G.purpurea. My second and third try did not gave me any seedling. But I will try again and again until I Have it.

I hope this one have the good name.

[ranunculus]

According to Halda and 'The Genus Gentiana' - your G. macrophylla looks very feasible (though Jarmila Haldova's illustration shows more pronounced pleating of the leaves).
G. przewalskii is only listed as a variation of G. algida/ G. nubigena (subgenus frigida) and a quick scan of G. nubigena shows a plant and flower form that relates quite closely to your plant (though the detailed description states a 'bright blue corolla' ... ?
I will take a look at the other queries in the next posting.

[Blue-bellied Frog]

Thank you Cliff.
First picture show base leafs of the G.macrophylla.
Others pictures show a Gentiana grown from seeds sold as G.Nikita Blue.
I saw somewhere it is G. dahurica. Is it right?
The last picture is not good, but it show whole-plant.

[ranunculus]

Hi Bernard,
Gentiana dahurica fits the bill exactly - Jarmila's illustration could have been captured from your very plant.

Where did you source your seed?

Having problems with your other images - there are so many candidates in Josef Halda's repertoire! Will keep on looking.

[Blue-bellied Frog]

Bonjour Cliff,
Three pictures for G. not-acaulis, grown in full light shade (no sun, near a Rhododendron) (In 2001, I had few flower beds, and I did put some seedlings where there was room)
Base leaves are 26cm long x 3 cm large (max)
stem leaves are 13cm       x 4,5cm

Gentiana Nikita Blue seeds was from McKenzie.
Sown on 02/01/2002, began to germinate 02/13/2002
I still have the envelope  with some codes.
      NL
Lot A2
And after the name of their Web site, this number 122507.
(It is good to keep records, no?)

[Blue-bellied Frog]

For this one I'm sure for the name.
Gentiana linearis, a plant I did save "In extremis" from tractor in a road reconstruction, on Mt. Valin.(50 Km. north from Chicoutimi)

[ranunculus]

Before I look TOO hard Bernard ... have you tried e-mailing McKenzie Seeds with a query - they have an in-house expert on their website supposedly?  Perhaps they have been asked the question previously?

Your G. linearis is superb!

[Blue-bellied Frog]

No, Cliff.
But I will, and will return with answer.
Yes this linearis is superb, but difficult to catch the true color. Always look "Luminous" on photos.