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Oron Peri

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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #75 on: August 12, 2008, 08:49:10 PM »
Well Maggi.... ::) I cant complain...

We have six species with four subsp. of Crocus in Israel, so October November is a real celebration for me
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #76 on: August 12, 2008, 09:08:42 PM »
We will look forward to the pix, in those months, then, Oron! 8)
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #77 on: August 12, 2008, 10:48:24 PM »
Oron,

beautiful forms of C. aleppicus you show us. :o

The pictures from the unknown lovely white crocus from Amman reminds me of either C. veneris (with yellow style and anthers and lack of orange throat) or a form of Crocus cancellatus ssp. lycius from S-Turkey with slender pedals...

Let's wait and see what the real experts say. I'm exited for their opinions.
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #78 on: August 13, 2008, 08:24:05 AM »
Oron

The aleppicus are wonderful - it is so good to see such a large clonal clump.
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #79 on: August 13, 2008, 08:42:04 AM »
Armin,

cancellatus has a fine netted tunic with a long neck, both cancellatus from the area cancellatus damascenus and cancellatus cancellatus are different in appearance. in the pic, you can notice that the corm has a papery tunic

C. veneris is endemic to Cyprus [thogh I think that what we consider aleppicus from Israel's coast line has some close relation to veneris]

And so we are left with either a form of C. aleppicus [what i'm more into] or might be also a form of C. hermoneus? ...
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #80 on: August 13, 2008, 10:03:11 AM »
Wonderful Crocus' Oron - thanks very much for showing !
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #81 on: August 13, 2008, 10:06:30 AM »
Oron,

I love the markings on the pink eleppicus.  I see so many species here on the SRGC that I've never heard of before.

So, given that these were photographed in the northern hemisphere and I assume aren't flowering now, what time do they flower?
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #82 on: August 14, 2008, 07:07:32 AM »
Paul,

C. aleppicus is in flower in October and November, the form i  have found in Jordan
was in flower in mid December.
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #83 on: August 14, 2008, 07:43:46 AM »
So they're autumn into winter then.  Nice addition to the autumn flowering collection!  ;D  Thanks for the info.
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #84 on: August 14, 2008, 09:05:34 PM »
Quote from: Oron Peri on August 13, 2008, 08:42:04 AM
Armin,

cancellatus has a fine netted tunic with a long neck, both cancellatus from the area cancellatus damascenus and cancellatus cancellatus are different in appearance. in the pic, you can notice that the corm has a papery tunic

C. veneris is endemic to Cyprus [thogh I think that what we consider aleppicus from Israel's coast line has some close relation to veneris]

And so we are left with either a form of C. aleppicus [what i'm more into] or might be also a form of C. hermoneus? ...

Hello Oron,
thanks for your reply. I agree you are right regarding fine netted tunic with a long neck for C. cancellatus and the different appearance of C. cancellatus damascenus and C. cancellatus cancellatus. By flower image there is still strong resembly to C. veneris in my opinion. Even we believe C.veneris is endemic to Cyprus there is not a too big distance to Jordan...
Reg. C. cancellatus ssp. lycius I'm refering to a picture posted in the old forum 2006 from Dirk Schnabel (picture located almost rock bottom, Please have a look.) [url][/url http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/5012/40620.html

At the end I think only a genetic analyse can bring the truth... :D
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #85 on: August 18, 2008, 02:52:36 PM »
Just dug up a Crocus biflorus ssp tauri for a friend, to find out, that even the spring
crocus have already started new root growth. Turning my head to the left I found the
first autumn crocus in flower: Crocus kotschyanus ssp suworowianus
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #86 on: August 18, 2008, 03:16:11 PM »
Thomas

Is this much earlier than usual?  Do you find this a difficult Crocus?
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #87 on: August 18, 2008, 03:29:49 PM »
Quote from: art600 on August 18, 2008, 03:16:11 PM
Thomas

Is this much earlier than usual?  Do you find this a difficult Crocus?

No, Arthur this Crocus is always the first for me - as long as I'm allowed to say that:
It's the third season for this species in my garden.

In the first year it has increased from 2 big and 2 small corms to 10 middle sized ones, but
this summer they didn't like something, the corms were only small. They grow in my rockgarden
in a very sandy but always softly moisted soil under a hazelnut tree protected from strong sunlight.
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #88 on: August 18, 2008, 07:04:40 PM »
First of many Thomas.
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Re: Crocus in both hemispheres August 2008
« Reply #89 on: August 19, 2008, 12:17:56 AM »
Thomas, looking forward to the show.

Maybe next fall I will pickup some fall flowering crocus, not sure how well they would do here.

Which ones would you suggest to start with, and are easy to grow?

Thanks for info.
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