Crocus September 2008

[Maggi Young]

Yes, Michael, that looks like a nice dark form of  C. kotschyanus .......many forms are rather paler and a bit washed out.

[Armin]

Crocus specioses ssp xantholaimos (with the yellow throat - ssp speciosus does not have this)
Crocus boryi

Hallo Tony,
your C. speciosus ssp. xantholaimos with the yellow throat is suberb.
I just noticed my "Conquerer" and my seedlings have a yellow throat too. Consequentially I'm thinking "Conquerer" is a selection of ssp. xantholaimos. Can you confirm my presumption?

Your C. boryi is of my special interest too. Can you kindly post a picture to show the inner markings?
Thanks in advance.

[Armin]

It is very difficult for me to grow Crocus (Fritillaria and Sternbergia) in my Alpine conditions (very wet and/or very hot/cold). Here are the first positive results after some experiments. No extraordinary plants for you but I am happy with them.

Hans,
any crocus is extraordinary . I remember your fantastic pictures from spring and still admire to have such a beautiful C. vernus ssp albiflorus meadow close to my garden! 
And, your C. cancellatus seems to have nice dark outer markings. Do you have a picture from the side to see the full beauty?
Is it grown from seed or corms purchased, from whom?

[Armin]

Yes, Michael, that looks like a nice dark form of  C. kotschyanus

Thanks Maggi for your confirmation

[Maggi Young]

Armin, Thomas has a photo that does show quite well the interior of Crocus boryi here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=771.msg19026;topicseen#msg19026
« Reply #96 on: September 19, 2007, 08:24:27 AM »

[Maggi Young]

And Andrew shows some here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=171.msg2680;topicseen#msg2680
Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 12:20:20 PM »... and in more posts down the page!

[Maggi Young]

Michael, here are great shots of C. scardicus from Tony G: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1286.msg33488;topicseen#msg33488     their colour is unlike any other 

See also Bulb Logs... .numbers   15/04     13/05     13/06    15/06    15/07   


For anyone not familiar with the BulbLog, the  Numbers refer to log/year  e.g. log 15/04 is log 15 of 2004
Bulb Logs are here:  http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/bulblog.html

[Michael J Campbell]

Thanks for the ID folks.

cheers

[Armin]

Fabulous Maggi,
many thanks for the ultrafast links
I was worth to make a quick tour

[Lesley Cox]

Anthony, did you manage to locate your pot of Cr. kosaninii? Was it left at the show?

[Boyed]

Thomas,

Thanks fpr posting a pic of your crocus nudiflorus small form. It looks cute. I suppose it is a wild form.

By the way, can anybody give me a hint whre to obtain crocus nudiflorus white form? I was very excited when I saw Mark's 'Orla'.

[johanneshoeller]

Armin,
here is an other photo. I have that Crocus from Janis R.

[tonyg]

Yes, Michael, that looks like a nice dark form of  C. kotschyanus .......many forms are rather paler and a bit washed out.

Very similar in basic flower colour to C pulchellus, easy to confuse until you look at the yellow markings in the throat.  The clearly defined W or M shape (depends which way up!) is absolutely typical of C kotschyanus while C pulchellus has a yellow zone in the throat but with no clear 'pattern' to it.

[ashley]

Thanks for these clear distinctions Tony, as well as the great pictures from everyone. 

Can you tell me where to find a good key to Crocus?

[Gerry Webster]

Ashley - the only key to crocus I have ever seen (& that only for European ones) is in Bulbs: the bulbous plants of Europe & their allies by C. Grey-Wilson & B. Mathew (1981).