Asarum

[Hristo]

Hi Hans, super Asarums!
From original posting pics 10 and 12 petrhaps A.heterotropoides?
Only suggest this because it looks like the plant I am about to post!

Asarum chinense.....more likely A. sieboldii
Asarum heterotropoides

[Afloden]

 #5 is likely delavayi, but without cutting the flower in half and see it in profile it is difficult to tell.

 # 10 looks like caulescens, as the sepals are beginning to reflex, maybe? If they remain erect then I would say it is sieboldii.

 # 12 is heterotropoides.

 Hristo, A. chinense is an evergreen species and the flower has a constricted calyx tube. Your plant looks like sieboldii, but... Check the Flora of China online and key it.

 Once I get too it, I'll post pictures of the native ones in my area.

 Aaron Floden
 Knoxville, TN
 UT Herbarium

[Hristo]

Aaron, cheers I took a look and it keys out better to A.sieboldii than A.chinense, the flowers arise from a double leaf not a solitary leaf!
Lose one species, gain another! 

[Giles]

There's an article in this September's 'The Plantsman' (Vol 8; part 3, Sept '09) by Russell Sharp on Asarum species.
If this is the wrong place to stick this, I guess it will be moved 

[greenspan]

i'm a newbie here, my english isn't so good...so please bear with me.

in late 2009 i've got 3 asarum, named as asarum heterotropoides. i planted 2 of them in my garden, 1 in a pot and stored this sample in my cold, but frostfree greenhouse as a backup copy. the "greenhouse" heterotropoides has quite big flowers as you can see on the foto. i named it as a. heterotropoides type1, the garden heterotropoides as type2. the habitus/shape(?) of all 3 plants is the same. the leaves are plain green without any marks or patterns. the flower size of type2 is notable smaller than type1, the colour is different as you can see (both examples in garden are identical, they differ only to type1). origin presumably china.

my questions...are these asarum a. heterotropoides? are they different varietis of heterotropoides or different species? i don't know if the difference in flower size and colour depends to the winter coldness. the type2 withstanded frost up to -15°C/5°F under a layer of metasequoia needles.

[Gail]

Hi Greenspan and welcome!  Your english is fine, don't worry.

Chris posted a picture of his Asarum heterotropoides here;   http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3375.15

It certainly looks like your first one but hopefully someone more experienced with asarums will help (I only have A. splendens)

[greenspan]

thx for the link. hm...i agree that hristos asarum in posting #19 of the "asarum 2009"-thread should be the same species like mine (type1). he named it as heterotropoides. i checked the description of asarum heterotropoides in the flora of china (excerpt): "lobes reflexed". this is what the lobes of my specimen, neither type1 nor type2 doesn't make.

here an example what i understand when the sepals are described as "lobes reflexed"...asarum caulescens shows this (see my foto; btw...caulescens is full hardy in z6b, foto is a few days old). in my opinion hristos foto in his posting #19 in the "asarum 2009"-thread shows asarum caulescens and not a. sieboldii (sieboldii in flora of china: "lobes erect or spreading"). i reckon that the foto was made, when the flower just opens and teh lobes reflex back a few days later.

the flowers of type 1+ type 2 by comparison. i can't believe, that this are the same species, whether heterotropoides(?) or another..

[bulborum]

I think it is good to continue here although it is not a real rhizome
if not Maggi then you maybe know a better place

most plants I have are from Chen Yi
I just bought them because I didn't know them
so maybe the names are wrong
if somebody knows don't hesitate to correct me

The first is Asarum maximum

Roland

[Maggi Young]

Sorry Folks, I've been slacking again..... will move this to Alpine Section. 

[bulborum]

OK

Thanks Maggi
Its a difficult plant to place
for me its a good place
never been here because I am a bulbman

Roland

[Maggi Young]

OK

Thanks Maggi
Its a difficult plant to place
for me its a good place
never been here because I am a bulbman

Roland

Well ,as you will have seen, we adopt a very relaxed attitude to plants with rhizomes, tubers etc and consider a great many of those plants to ne "honorary bulbs" for the purposes of the Forum... anything with lumpy underground storage organs being included, for the most part,.... but If the move has brought you, Roland, to a part of this huge forum then it may do the same for other and likewise send some non-bulb-lovers heading in the opposite directioin to check out the bulb section to see what "other" delights might be found there!!

[bulborum]

I have to look out carefully
otherwise my wife ask me of I am married with the forum   

Roland

[cohan]

I think it is good to continue here although it is not a real rhizome
if not Maggi then you maybe know a better place

most plants I have are from Chen Yi
I just bought them because I didn't know them
so maybe the names are wrong
if somebody knows don't hesitate to correct me

The first is Asarum maximum

Roland

this looks like a very interesting plant! someone was showing us some really nice species earlier in the year, but i forget which thread it was in....

[Maggi Young]

 I have merged this page with some pages  which showed some good plants.... scroll back through the posts to see them.

[bulborum]

Finally everything comes together
Thanks Maggi

Roland