Crocus October 2008

[Gerry Webster]

David- I'll PM you the details
Gerry

[Hagen Engelmann]

Thanks for your help, Oron and Tony. How is the corm, much  reticulated?  Next year I will find it out.

[Gerry Webster]

Crocus tournefortii x boryi

Brian Mathew records that probable hybrids between C. tournefortii & C. boryi can be found at the eastern end of Crete. A few years ago, plants distributed in the bulb trade as C. tournefortii appeared to be this hybrid. This is a first generation seedling from such a supposed hybrid. Although it bears a strong resemblance to C. boryi the C. tournefortii influence still shows since the flower does not close completely at night.

[Lars S]

A very beatiful crocus Hagen. Probably a plant that I only can dream about growing up here in the North  
Lars

[Oron Peri]

Lars

Don't be so pessimistic....

C. hermoneos blooms in autumn to follow 3-4 months under heavy layer of snow.
when snow melts leaves appear to follow by seedpods.
I think if you keep it dry and hot during summer you just might have success growing it.

[art600]

Lars

I think if you keep it dry and hot during summer you just might have success growing it.

But first you must obtain seed or a corm. 

[Anthony Darby]

May be, I know some Galanthus, but I´m not a croconut. Hope you can help me. What is it?

That is stunning Hagen. How 'klein' is it?

[Thomas Huber]

Hagen, do you know where your plant is from? Perhaps you can try to have a
careful look in the pot to clarify the corm question!?

David, I think your plant is of hybrid origin - perhaps cartwrightianus and hadriaticus.
Hadriaticus has a shiny yellow throat, while cartwrightianus hasn't (and also thomasii!)
your plant has a soft yellow intermediate throat.
The whitish/creamy anthers possibly mean, that the plant is infertile, which often
happens with hybrids. I have a plant with similar features, bought as hadriaticus,
but also showing cartwrightianus signs.

[Gerry Webster]

David - I agree with Thomas that your plant may be of hybrid origin - the thought had occurred to me. However, I would be reluctant to come to any definite conclusion on the basis of a photograph. One needs to examine the details of the small-scale morphology & even then the results may not be conclusive.

Edit: By the way, according to Brian Mathew, C. thomasii has a yellow throat.

[Boyed]

Some more crocuses from my collection
crocus speciosus 'pambaka' - very tall (up to 25 cm), very strong stem, that withstands even strong winds, again creamy anthers (collected from the smae area as 'Cloudy Sky'
crocus speciosus 'Goris' - up to 15-17 cm tall with beautiful pattern on the outside petals

Zhirair,
that C. speciosus 'pambaka' looks very strong and healthy, excellent!  
The difference to "Oxonian" seem to be just the color of the stem. Right?
C.pulchellus "Zephyr" is an easy grower in my garden too.

All the others you show from your collection are also beautiful and desireable.

Armin,

crocus speciosus Pambak is very different comparing to Oxonian. Pambak is more blue, 'Oxonian' is more violate and it is dark when in buds, but during flowering the flowers turn paler. 'Oxonian' has very large flowers of very beautiful shape, but pitty its tubes are rather weak, my samples always lying on the ground.
Unlike 'Oxonian', Pambak is very vigorous, very tall, and has very strong tube.

[Tony Willis]

Here is a crocus from Northern Greece which has ten petals. I did think it was pulchellus but I am confused by the anthers.I am always confused.If only it had been a galanthus I would not be sat here worrying if the RBS was going bust.

[Maggi Young]

 Tony, you need cheering up.... see here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=918.new#new

[mark smyth]

I was hoping Halifax would collapse because I have a loan with them 

[Tony Willis]

Mark

you were supposed to help me identify my amazing crocus not remind me I might soon be having them cooked for dinner

[mark smyth]

Are they edible? Cheque first!

To my still learning eye I believe it isnt pulchellus. The fat UU points, I hope, to kotschyanus