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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #135 on: October 08, 2008, 08:30:19 PM »
Gerry, I hope you pressed your nose into those gorgeous flowers?

Maggi - that's a treat for tomorrow. Shoot first & smell later is my motto at present. I'm such a hopelessly  amateur photographer that all my attention is devoted to getting a half-way acceptable image.
Gerry, your shots of the dark tubed hadriaticus are lovely . 8)

I see you had some sun today in Dunblane, Anthony... it was good crocus opening weather here in Aberdeen too!
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #136 on: October 08, 2008, 08:48:03 PM »
Crocus cartwrightianus

From the widely distributed & very variable collection by Christian, Elliott & Hoog (CEH 613). Greece, Evvia,  nr. Polipotamos (1982)
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #137 on: October 08, 2008, 10:01:34 PM »
From my garden today is
the pot of Crocus pulchellus I was smelling earlier. Some difference between full sun and a when a cloud came by
C. nudiflorus
Crocus kotschyanus cappadocicus that doesnt match what is on the Crocus pages. I'll force it to open tomorrow
« Last Edit: October 08, 2008, 10:04:26 PM by mark smyth »
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #138 on: October 08, 2008, 10:23:46 PM »
1 Could someone ID this one please, There is just a ? on the label
I reckon it could be Crocus medius from flower colour and the red style.

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #139 on: October 08, 2008, 10:31:54 PM »
Thanks Tony, having looked at the pic on your site I will settle for Medius.

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #140 on: October 09, 2008, 12:44:07 AM »
I reckon it could be Crocus medius from flower colour and the red style.
Tony - on the basis of perianth & stigma colour you may well be correct but, according to BM, C. medius has a white throat. This is not obvious from the photo. I remain dubious about identifying plants from photos.
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #141 on: October 09, 2008, 04:28:57 AM »
Crocus yesterdayin my garden.

1+2 Crocus pulchellus Albus from Thomas Huber
3 Crocus mathew
4 Crocus pallasii
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #142 on: October 09, 2008, 06:12:39 AM »
Nice pictures Oleg, especially the fist one.
Crocus kotschianus is easily distingishable plant and as the guys mentioned, you have different colour forms. Both are, indeed, very cute.
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #143 on: October 09, 2008, 08:17:50 AM »
Michael, I'm with Tony, that your ?-Crocus is medius. Gerry, Brian Mathew describes the wild form of medius in his monograph. The plant Michael has is the trade form (which is not pure medius I think, because the wild form's leaves will only grow in spring, while the trade form's leaves grow with the flower!). Have a look at the red much branched style - typically for this plant! Most of the trade forms are virused, but from the photo the plant looks OK.

Speciosus Aichinsonii looks OK to my eye - exactly like the plant I have under that name.



Mark, kotschyanus ssp cappadocius can look exactly like ssp kotschyanus, but it has a hairless throat so you should try to have a look with a lense into the throat. I found it easier to examine this feature if I remove one or two petals  :-X :'(
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #144 on: October 09, 2008, 08:45:20 AM »
ok when it's past it's best I'll pull a flower apart
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #145 on: October 09, 2008, 09:46:58 AM »
A few Crocus flowering for me now :

1 & 2 Crocus mathewii - grown from Crocus Group seed
3 & 4 Crocus goulimyi - shows two bicoloured forms.  The darker one is actually a deeper colour
5 & 6 Crocus boryi
7 & 8 Crocus cambessedessii - grown from Crocus Group seed.  Flowers are quite small
9 Would like an identification please  Made a mistake in posting and posted 2 of the inside.  Outside photo now on next post
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #146 on: October 09, 2008, 09:56:26 AM »
Michael, I'm with Tony, that your ?-Crocus is medius. Gerry, Brian Mathew describes the wild form of medius in his monograph. The plant Michael has is the trade form (which is not pure medius I think, because the wild form's leaves will only grow in spring, while the trade form's leaves grow with the flower!). Have a look at the red much branched style - typically for this plant!

Thomas - OK I'm persuaded, though the suggestion of yellow is odd. I will have a wild form in flower in a few hours (for the first time) so I can compare. I've never had seed on the trade form - the anthers seem malformed - which might be consistent with it being a hybrid but if it is what are the parents?
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #147 on: October 09, 2008, 09:56:28 AM »
More Crocus
1 Outside of 9 from previous post
2 Crocus kotschyanus?
3 Crocus pulchellus?
4 & 5 Could you please identify
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #148 on: October 09, 2008, 10:20:38 AM »
Marvelous pix Art, Karl et all !  Great to see the diversity within the Crocus family !

Mark, that potful of pulchellus is a real eyecatcher in the sun as well as in the shade !!
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #149 on: October 09, 2008, 10:30:52 AM »
Gerry, I hope you pressed your nose into those gorgeous flowers?
Maggi - just done so. Yes, scented but not strongly. The most powerful scent at the moment comes from C. goulimyi 'Mani White'. Much more potent than  any of the C. longifloruscurrently in flower.
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