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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #360 on: October 23, 2008, 02:09:34 PM »
Could someone please identify this Crocus. The flower was removed from the plant by a cutworm  >:( :(  I am intrigued by the white stigma
Could be C kotschyanus var leucopharynx - white style and throated version of C kotschyanus

BD and I agree with eacother, and Tony, on this one........


and on this one......
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Some Crocus from the bulb house and garden
1.  The litlle and large of Crocus kotschyanus
2.  Crocus goulimyi
3.  Crocus niveus
4.  Crocus boryi
5.  Identity please
Tony G says...
5 Crocus longiflorus


But I part company with the BD on THIS one and go with Tony Goode....
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Quote from: johanneshoeller on October 20, 2008, 05:36:45 PM
Some nameless Crocus. Who can help me?

Dominique, the flower of your first unknown crocus looks very like the Crocus  speciosus ssp. xantholaimos x pulchellus that I show in this weeks bulb log - although I am not sure that they would meet in Syria.

 Tony says:
Well the great and the good(e) can disagree .... I don't think it is C speciosus xantholaimos x pulchellus!!  The flower/petal shape is not typical but it is VERY similar to some forms of C cancellatus.  A check of the corm tunics would confirm this.  C cancellatus has netted tunics, speciosus/pulchellus have papery ones.   

I favour C. cancellatus, too!
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #361 on: October 23, 2008, 03:27:10 PM »
Bio - I also got my 'Poseidon' from Paul Christian. Looking again at my plants & at your photo my 'Poseidon' maybe has a  darker tube but in my opinion photographs are an unreliable basis  for comparison.
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #362 on: October 23, 2008, 03:30:39 PM »
Some Crocus from the bulb house and garden
1.  The litlle and large of Crocus kotschyanus
2.  Crocus goulimyi
3.  Crocus niveus
4.  Crocus boryi
5.  Identity please
5 Crocus longiflorus
OK - on a second look I agree, C. longiflorus. My head is full of saffron crocuses at the moment & I see them everywhere. Didn't someone die from an excess of saffron?
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #363 on: October 23, 2008, 04:27:03 PM »
But I part company with the BD on THIS one and go with Tony Goode....
Quote from: Ian Y on Today at 10:11:39 AM

Gosh :o  I'd hate to be the cause of a split :o :o ;D  .... being something of a lumper myself :D
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #364 on: October 23, 2008, 06:37:52 PM »
Bio - I also got my 'Poseidon' from Paul Christian. Looking again at my plants & at your photo my 'Poseidon' maybe has a  darker tube but in my opinion photographs are an unreliable basis  for comparison.

Then, I would be happy next summer to send you bulbs of my possible two clones for you to compare in autumn 2009  ;)

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #365 on: October 23, 2008, 11:14:06 PM »
Bio - I also got my 'Poseidon' from Paul Christian. Looking again at my plants & at your photo my 'Poseidon' maybe has a  darker tube but in my opinion photographs are an unreliable basis  for comparison.

Then, I would be happy next summer to send you bulbs of my possible two clones for you to compare in autumn 2009  ;)
Bio - OK, thanks. I will PM you about this. By the way, my pics are not very accurate as regards  colour, I think yours are much better.
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #366 on: October 24, 2008, 12:04:51 AM »
Another C. tournefortii - the kindest to late-night gardeners!

This one seems less like Ian's beauties (reply #191), which Gerry calls the 'old form', and perhaps closer to Thomas' from Crete (reply #4) with its striped upper tube.
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #367 on: October 24, 2008, 08:14:27 AM »
Could someone please identify this Crocus. The flower was removed from the plant by a cutworm  >:( :(  I am intrigued by the white stigma
Arthur,
Can it be Crocus kotchianus ssp leucopharynx. This is the one flowering now
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #368 on: October 24, 2008, 09:47:04 AM »
This one seems less like Ian's beauties (reply #191), which Gerry calls the 'old form', and perhaps closer to Thomas' from Crete (reply #4) with its striped upper tube.

These are beautiful Ashley - much nicer than the very pale form which is currently in flower here. Your photo seems to have captured the subtle colours really well.
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #369 on: October 24, 2008, 11:17:50 AM »
Oleg

Your Crocus look wonderful.  I look forward to seeing mine looking as good.

Thanks everyone for the identification
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #370 on: October 24, 2008, 12:08:50 PM »
Having just seen Ian's latest bulb log, I think Crocus montage is my favourite. ;)
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #371 on: October 24, 2008, 02:18:36 PM »
I have great pleasure to see all your wonderfull crocuses .
I also would like to share some from my side which taken on wild and very cloase to my garden.
C. pulchellus.

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #372 on: October 24, 2008, 02:55:26 PM »
Just a little one (3.5cm/1.5inch high) to start me this year.

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #373 on: October 24, 2008, 02:56:26 PM »
Here is a species which I have seen first time. It has very small and pale anthers nearly white. The size of flowers even not half of normal c. speciosus. First one is from garden of biological university the secon is fron another botanical garden.

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #374 on: October 24, 2008, 05:45:44 PM »
Today the first of the serotinus ssp clusii 'Gwendoline Edwards' were open. They are very small maybe 6cm high and difficult to photograph. Is this normal? Does any know anything about this Crocus?

No photos as they are not good quality. Maybe tomorrow
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