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Oron Peri

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #405 on: October 27, 2008, 01:30:32 PM »
Here's one of mine from a few small corms kindly sent to me by Tony Willis. Tony wasn't sure what the species would be but said that the corms were collected from Kosmos in the Greek Peleponnese. My guess would be Crocus boryi, am I correct??

David, oddly I have this same form in flower today, I received the seeds in 2005 under tuornefortii,
but off course it isn't that.
it is smaller sized flower, and much slender then boryi....I also have difficulties to decide.... ???
« Last Edit: October 27, 2008, 01:34:19 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #406 on: October 27, 2008, 02:10:52 PM »
Here I want to show some more photo from university garden. They have nice specieses but the slugs made big problems.

Ibrahim - many thanks for the C. nerimaniae. What a striking flower!
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #407 on: October 27, 2008, 02:17:17 PM »
Here's one of mine from a few small corms kindly sent to me by Tony Willis. Tony wasn't sure what the species would be but said that the corms were collected from Kosmos in the Greek Peleponnese. My guess would be Crocus boryi, am I correct??

David, oddly I have this same form in flower today, I received the seeds in 2005 under tuornefortii,
but off course it isn't that.
it is smaller sized flower, and much slender then boryi....I also have difficulties to decide.... ???

Oron, maybe others will help us both.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2008, 02:49:02 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #408 on: October 27, 2008, 03:27:02 PM »
David,
I suspect it to be boryi x laevigatus, but lets see what the others think.
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #409 on: October 27, 2008, 03:37:16 PM »
Oron

I recently showed a photo of a boryi x laevigatus - it was very large, almost niveus in size.  I do not think size can be a sure way of identifying the hybrid.
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #410 on: October 27, 2008, 03:54:00 PM »
Art,

I agree with you that the size of the flower is not a factor, I gave this  indication since you cant realize the real size in the photo.
Any way my boryi do not have such a long 'leg'.
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #411 on: October 27, 2008, 04:56:32 PM »
Ibrahim
Very nice crocuses as always  from you.  I too have slugs >:( but am working hard to make the garden less friendly to them.  I think your mystery crocus is C asumaniae.  The style is longer and more prominent than I associate with C pallasii.

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #412 on: October 27, 2008, 05:16:36 PM »
Here's one of mine from a few small corms kindly sent to me by Tony Willis. Tony wasn't sure what the species would be but said that the corms were collected from Kosmos in the Greek Peleponnese. My guess would be Crocus boryi, am I correct??

David - it could be C. boryi. Some forms have relatively small flowers with a suggestion of purple veining on the outside - I have one. Bear in mind, however, that 50% of my identifications turn out to be wrong!
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #413 on: October 27, 2008, 05:17:32 PM »
Ibrahim
Very nice crocuses as always  from you.  I too have slugs >:( but am working hard to make the garden less friendly to them.  I think your mystery crocus is C asumaniae.  The style is longer and more prominent than I associate with C pallasii.

This refers to Ibrahims last crocus in this post on page 27, I believe....
Re: Crocus October 2008
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #414 on: October 27, 2008, 05:27:21 PM »
Tony,
Thank you very much indeed!
Your confirmation is important for me. I was not sure with that short style.

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #415 on: October 27, 2008, 05:51:44 PM »
To David ( Nichelson) :

here is a little help for the ID of this Crocus from Tony Willis - the name of this location is Kosmas - not Kosmos .
This little village is in the Parnon mts. - maybe if you know the area so it is easier to identify ....I answer for Tony - I think he is away ....

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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #416 on: October 27, 2008, 07:49:56 PM »
Thank you Hans for the correction, I have amended my notes to read 'Kosmas'. Not having visited Greece it doesn't help me but it might well be useful for others.

Gerry, thanks for the ID, that makes two of us for C. boryi but we could both be wrong.

Time moves very quickly in this thread and I would like to get a view from TonyG on the ID so I will re-post the pictures here but it may be that I have to wait and post a pic of the corms next June!





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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #417 on: October 27, 2008, 07:53:03 PM »
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #418 on: October 27, 2008, 08:48:56 PM »
Two more crocus are starting to bloom:

C. pallasii pallasii
C. ochroleucus, at the end of the day I was lucky to take a photo of this great clump.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2008, 09:03:24 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Crocus October 2008
« Reply #419 on: October 27, 2008, 08:56:25 PM »
Two more crocus are starting to bloom:

C. pallasii pallasii
C. ochroleucus, at the end of the they I was lucky to take a photo of this great clump.

What a fabulous clump of c. ochroleucus - amazing the way that you have captured it so well in this photo at just the best moment.
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