We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: early narcissus  (Read 24918 times)

Gerry Webster

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2571
  • Country: gb
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2008, 08:34:18 PM »
Arthur, what a pretty flower..... it is a N. cantabricus but has extra "bits"...... the tube of the flower looks perfect so I don't think this is a simple case of two flowers fusing into one: there are extra petals and extra stamens so there is some sort of mutation going on.....
Maggi - I'm obviously past it. I didn't even notice the extra "bits"!
Gerry passed away  at home  on 25th February 2021 - his posts are  left  in the  forum in memory of him.
His was a long life - lived well.

Gerry Webster

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2571
  • Country: gb
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2008, 02:08:58 PM »
Narcissus romieuxii -

The cultivar 'Treble Chance' is described as  a selection from JCA805 & 'Atlas Gold" as  a selection from JCA805Y. In his seed list Jim Archibald only mentions JCA805. Does anyone know what, if any, is the difference between 805 & 805Y?
« Last Edit: December 10, 2008, 09:50:22 PM by Gerry Webster »
Gerry passed away  at home  on 25th February 2021 - his posts are  left  in the  forum in memory of him.
His was a long life - lived well.

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2008, 09:08:08 PM »
Here's two from me :

Already shown here - but nonetheless : Narcissus romieuxii 'Craigton Clanger' + close up
                                                          Narcissus zaianicus lutescens x cantabricus
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

David Nicholson

  • Hawkeye
  • Journal Access Group
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13117
  • Country: england
  • Why can't I play like Clapton
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2008, 09:13:28 PM »
Two beauties there Luc. Craigton Clanger is superb isn't it.
David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b
"Victims of satire who are overly defensive, who cry "foul" or just winge to high heaven, might take pause and consider what exactly it is that leaves them so sensitive, when they were happy with satire when they were on the side dishing it out"

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44766
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2008, 09:35:35 PM »
Super photos, Luc.
 I do love 'Craigton Clanger'.... but as a parent, you would expect me to say that, I think!
96195-0
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

Gerry Webster

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2571
  • Country: gb
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2008, 09:52:52 PM »
Luc - I think the N. zaianicus lutescens hybrid is very elegant.
Gerry passed away  at home  on 25th February 2021 - his posts are  left  in the  forum in memory of him.
His was a long life - lived well.

Lvandelft

  • Spy out IN the cold
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Country: nl
  • Dutch Master
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2008, 10:12:25 PM »
Here's two from me :

Already shown here - but nonetheless : Narcissus romieuxii 'Craigton Clanger' + close up
                                                          Narcissus zaianicus lutescens x cantabricus
A nice potfull Luc!
You have a camera too?  ;D ;)
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

Sadly Luit died on 14th October 2016 - happily we can still enjoy his posts to the Forum

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2008, 11:32:10 PM »
My first 'Cedric Morris' has been eaten during the frost when it was lying down
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2008, 08:07:57 AM »
Bad news Marc - and probably the vilain has escaped too..  >:(

Thanks for the comments on the Narcissus everyone  ;)  and obviously a special thanks to the "mum"  ;D
Actually, Craigton clanger is excellent stock... these were only 2 bulbs in 2007  :D

Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2008, 08:09:49 AM »
A nice potfull Luc!
You have a camera too?  ;D ;)

 ;D
Yes Luit, and when I have something worth photographing I even use it
 ;D ;)
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

Oron Peri

  • Middle Eastern Correspondent for the Forum
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1500
  • Country: 00
  • Living in the Galilee Region, min. temp. 5c max 40
    • Seeds of Peace
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #70 on: December 11, 2008, 09:21:42 AM »
My first 'Cedric Morris' has been eaten during the frost when it was lying down

Mark,

Look at the bright side of things...now it  seems like the first yellow Galanthus ;)
Tivon, in the lower Galilee, north Israel.
200m.

Paul T

  • Our man in Canberra
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8435
  • Country: au
  • Paul T.
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #71 on: December 11, 2008, 10:03:32 AM »
Oh Oron, that is harsh.  :o  Kicking a man when he is down, and all that.  ;D ;)
Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

Rob Potterton

  • humble, down-trodden nurseryman!!
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 223
  • Country: gb
    • Pottertons Nursery
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2008, 11:17:18 AM »
Gerry, my father obtained bulbs of Narcissus romieuxii JCA805 off Jim Archibald in 1971 and selected out several different distinct bulbs, labelling one XXX. Some 20 years later when the stock had increased sufficiently to offer for sale XXX he named it 'Treble Chance'. He also had a selection labelled JCA 805Y (i don't know wether he originally attached the Y to 805 or not) but i'd always assumed that it was an early recognition that these bulbs were Yellow Form of JCA805, ie Y = Yellow. I'm rather vague about this bit but i think the name 'Atlas Gold' possibly came from Fred Hunt ??
Rob Potterton  Lincolnshire  UK

Potterton's on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pottertons-Nursery/130403187026232

dominique

  • River Dweller
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 554
  • Country: 00
  • passionated by bulbs since 1978,
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #73 on: December 11, 2008, 11:29:50 AM »
Very nice pics. Thanks Luc and thanks at the Mum
Dom
do

Pontoux France

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44766
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: early narcissus
« Reply #74 on: December 11, 2008, 11:44:39 AM »
Gerry, my father obtained bulbs of Narcissus romieuxii JCA805 off Jim Archibald in 1971 and selected out several different distinct bulbs, labelling one XXX. Some 20 years later when the stock had increased sufficiently to offer for sale XXX he named it 'Treble Chance'. He also had a selection labelled JCA 805Y (i don't know wether he originally attached the Y to 805 or not) but i'd always assumed that it was an early recognition that these bulbs were Yellow Form of JCA805, ie Y = Yellow. I'm rather vague about this bit but i think the name 'Atlas Gold' possibly came from Fred Hunt ??

The RHS Daffodil Register shows that it was Potterton and Martin who registestered the name Atlas Gold in 1993 :
http://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/registerpages/daffdetails.asp?ID=224106


Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal