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Hans A.

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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2008, 10:08:04 AM »
Tony and Hagen, thanks a lot for this superb photos of this fine species. :D
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2008, 10:40:53 AM »
Oh my!  :o

Absolutelly stunning pictures! Those G. peshmenii kinda reminds me of another beloved plant of mine, Stanhopea ecornuta. I find it highly distinct from other snowdrops, and it is one step closer of being my fav. species of galanthus so far! :)
Oh and by the way, the taxonomy of Galanthus is mainly based upon what kind of characteristics ??? I am far of being an expert on this area, but to me, all flowers look tremendously similar, mostly green and white, nodding, the outter whorl being bigger than the inner whorl of tepals, and they mostly open in angle... And the variation that G. peshmenii can achieve in the wild is making me confused even more, they look sooo distinct!  I already tried to identify some species by picture, but it gets virtually impossible. Could someone help me with this?

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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2008, 12:02:46 PM »
Oh and by the way, the taxonomy of Galanthus is mainly based upon what kind of characteristics ??? I am far of being an expert on this area, but to me, all flowers look tremendously similar, mostly green and white, nodding, the outter whorl being bigger than the inner whorl of tepals, and they mostly open in angle... And the variation that G. peshmenii can achieve in the wild is making me confused even more, they look sooo distinct!  I already tried to identify some species by picture, but it gets virtually impossible. Could someone help me with this?

That's a big question, Michael! The short answer is that the division of galanthus into species is mainly based on the leaves - the vernation (whether they are flat and pressed together at the base, wrapped around each other at the base, or rolled back at the edges when they first appear) plus leave colour (dark green, light green, greyish, striped) and one or two other minor features. This is backed up by chromosomal studies that confirm the distinctions between the species based on the leaves. The flowers are all, as you say, fairly similar in their basic morphology. It is difficult to see the differences when you first start looking at galanthus, but the more you study them the better you get at it.
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2008, 07:01:46 PM »
Hagen,

Very nice photographs, excellent plants.

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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2008, 08:02:53 PM »
It`s our appointment(? hope this is the right word), our way together Paddy. We are galanthophile. No borders, no religious wars. We can divide our joy. One thing I haven´t shown. The white G. peshmenii. Here it is
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2008, 08:22:26 PM »
What a super series of photo's you have posted Hagen - I had not realised how diverse this species was - well done  :D
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2008, 10:15:43 PM »
Another wonderful snowdrop Hagen, thanks for showing it to us.
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2008, 06:06:02 PM »
Hagen,

The white G. peshmenii is outstanding, really beautiiful.

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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2008, 09:08:44 PM »
On my way through the world of G. peshmenii I also met some Leprechnauns. Hope, Paddy can tell us much more about these creatures, because they are Irish.
Here is a real dwarf (notice my fingers).
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« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2008, 09:12:35 PM »
Some more Leprechnauns.
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2008, 09:23:53 PM »
Chris, Brian, Paddy - G. peshmenii are wonderfull. You can find so much varieties like in G. nivalis. Some look like G reginae-olgae. Before my visits I thought that I know the typus of G. peshmenii. But now I`m confused. If you want, I will show you pictures of G. p. they look like G reginae olgae. To define the species, we need a genetic fingerprint, the optical aspect isn`t enough. This constellation is a problem for me.
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2008, 09:44:23 PM »
I'm going to sit in a darkened room. I used to be perfectly contented with my clump of snowdrops, then I came down with the fever. Named peshmenii varieties.....with green tipped outers! :o I can't cope. Help!!!! ::)
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2008, 10:02:34 PM »
Here is a real dwarf (notice my fingers).
What a smashing snowdrop this is - thanks for posting  :)
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2008, 10:03:59 PM »
They get better and better Hagen. That cheers up a cold winter night 8)
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Re: Mediterranean galanthus
« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2008, 10:04:51 PM »
If you want, I will show you pictures of G. p. they look like G reginae olgae.

Yes please Hagen ::)
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