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Oron Peri

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Iris vartanii
« on: November 23, 2008, 06:54:54 PM »
On my way home today I have made a stop to take photos of I. Vartanii.

It is the first Iris to flower here.

This early bloomer is the most southern species of the Reticulata group, growing in low altitudes.
I find it to be an excellent plant to grow in a pot.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2008, 07:29:09 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2008, 07:04:00 PM »
Wow !  Very nice pix Oron, I've not often seen this one !
Thanks for stopping and showing !
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2008, 07:09:37 PM »
Lovely Oron, bet it wouldn't look so happy here. Far too cold and wet.
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 07:20:06 PM »
Lovely Oron, bet it wouldn't look so happy here. Far too cold and wet.

David,

I guess you are right, this one needs a dry long summer rest and a mild winter.

Iris histrio, its cousin from high altitudes should do fine since its hardy, and very similar in apearence.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2008, 07:30:05 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2008, 07:35:48 PM »
With such flowers to be seen en route, Oron, I'm surprised you ever get to work, or home again ::)
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2008, 07:37:44 PM »
Oron,

Wow.  Not heard of that species before.  Sounds like it would grow well here too!  Must look out for it if ever available.  Thanks for showing us new things.  8)
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2008, 08:11:32 PM »
I dimly remember  Iris vartanii being  available in the UK some 25 years ago.   I considered buying it then but all the literature  indicated that it did not thrive here, even under glass, so I saved my money. I think  the white form was the one more widely available & I wonder whether they were dug  up in the wild? I haven't seen it offered since then.
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2008, 08:52:58 PM »
A real beauty  :o

Thank you Oron

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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2008, 09:23:47 PM »
I dimly remember  Iris vartanii being  available in the UK some 25 years ago.   I considered buying it then but all the literature  indicated that it did not thrive here, even under glass, so I saved my money. I think  the white form was the one more widely available & I wonder whether they were dug  up in the wild? I haven't seen it offered since then.

Yes, Gerry, the de Jager bulb company used to offer Iris vartanii 'Alba' yearly decades ago.

I had it from them several times: the pale gray-white flowers were beautiful, but the plant seemed very weak.

Whenever I see the modern reticulate hybrid 'Natascha' I'm reminded of it, although 'Natascha' has a different form.

Thanks, Oron, for raising the hope that I might see Iris vartanii again one of these days!


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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2008, 09:26:33 PM »
A beautiful Iris.  From your comments on its low altitude location I assume it will be frost tender?

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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 05:05:00 PM »
Lovely Oron, bet it wouldn't look so happy here. Far too cold and wet.

David,

I guess you are right, this one needs a dry long summer rest and a mild winter.

Iris histrio, its cousin from high altitudes should do fine since its hardy, and very similar in appearance.

My Iris histrio aintabensis died out but my Iris vartanii is up again this year (I don't think it is going to flower) !!
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2008, 06:37:29 AM »
Oron,
 I can,t do better than echo Maggi,s comment :what a pleasure to pass Iris vartanii in bloom on your way to work -you should be in a happy mood all day. It is such a beautyful
clear ,pale blue form, the one I used to grow some 40 years ago was a greyish-blue .My
 Iris histrio , col. near Sofar, Lebanon , flowers here in the last weeks of autumn , so I think I. vartanii is even a few weeks earlier .
 Andrew I find I.histrio and its var.aintabensis much easier to grow in the open than
vartanii.
  Paul , I.vartanii alba used to be available commercially in Australia in the sixties, it was a weak grower and has died out , and I also no longer have the grey-blue one , perhaps one day again ?someone may import them again, or seed.
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2008, 11:25:11 AM »
  Paul , I.vartanii alba used to be available commercially in Australia in the sixties, it was a weak grower and has died out , and I also no longer have the grey-blue one , perhaps one day again ?someone may import them again, or seed.
     Otto.
Otto - Not from the wild I hope. I learn from the internet that I. vartanii & other iris species are protected in Israel & collection of plants or seed is illegal.
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2008, 11:26:43 AM »
With such flowers to be seen en route, Oron, I'm surprised you ever get to work, or home again ::)

Maggi you are right... this is the reason why I choose to be  self employed, other wise i would probably have to find new jobs every two weeks. ;)

I cant complain about living in Israel for the reasone that we have about 240 bulbous taxa growing here,
for other causes... its another story, but this is not the place to explain.
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Re: Iris vartanii
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2008, 11:41:39 AM »
Otto,

Iris vartanii is A very rare species that can be found only in a few localities, it blooms a few weeks after the first rains: Mid November to Mid December.

Iris Histrio, has a longer period of bloom, most colonies flower in January to February, while the colonies on Mt. Hermon bloom a few days after snow melts which is around mid March. It is also a rare species.
Luckily this species grows mainly in areas declared as natural reserves, and so its future looks brighter.

I'm adding photos of I. histrio in its natural habitat.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2008, 01:30:40 PM by Oron Peri »
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