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Gerry Webster

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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2008, 10:36:58 AM »
Anne - many thanks for the photos. Interesting to compare your N. cantabricus var. petunioides with Blanchard's pic. I have 'Atlas Gold' in bud for the first time; I'm inclined to agree, a bit OTT!
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2008, 12:50:55 PM »
this and mine, a side photo Narcissus cantabricus Imincaoute Morocco
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2008, 01:43:19 PM »
One from Israel, from my friend Miriam Sason collection

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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2008, 01:50:17 PM »
Anne I always thought the turned back corona like your Atlas Gold was petunoid

Here are some of my N. asturiensis 'Cedric Morris'. My camera hates the colour of this Narcissus
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2008, 04:15:23 PM »
It is, Mark, isn't it?
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2008, 04:51:18 PM »
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  Anne I always thought the turned back corona like your Atlas Gold was petunoid

It is, Mark, isn't it?


Mark, yes, there are various types with these really petunia-like flowers, with flat faces and  the heavily turned back edges.... much more so than N. canatb. var petunioides
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2008, 05:17:40 PM »
I have re read your post.

My 'Atlas Gold' has never flowered since it first flowered in one of my troughs. This is maybe 3 or 4 years ago. What could be going wrong? It produces leaves OK
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Gerry Webster

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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2008, 07:21:59 PM »
Mark - 'Atlas Gold' is a form of N. romieuxii. I find that forms of this species (I only have a couple) benefit from a cool, dry summer rest under cover. Of course, other people's experience may be different.
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2008, 08:20:17 PM »
All my romieuxii types are grown in the bulb house and dry in summer.
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2008, 09:29:46 PM »
The second photo is of Atlas Gold, a bit 'over the top' in my eyes.

Anne - your 'Atlas Gold' looks a good deal more petunia-like than the photos on Daffseek. Does the degree of flaring increase as the flower ages?
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2008, 01:58:36 AM »
To the Narc aficionados,
What exactly (...or almost!) is N. cantabricus 'Petunioides'? I can find very little info on the www regarding my pot of seedling narcs (ex. JJA Seeds) - thanks.
Rogan,
sorry, I didn't see your original post till this morning.
Here are pics of what I assume is Narc. cantabricus var. petunioides, though that wasn't the label on the packet of seed (from SRGC Seedex as N. cantab. var. clusii)
It has a very flat flower and appears more substantial than N romieuxii.
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These were taken last year as, alas, it didn't flower this year.
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and for comparison to N. rom."Mon Dieu"
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2008, 04:38:22 AM »
Fermi,

That is so beautifully white!!!!!  Very nice flower!
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2008, 10:36:58 AM »
Oh ' Mon Dieux ' - what a pair of superb daffodils!

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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2008, 11:27:02 AM »
Fermi - a striking plant, & very different to both Anne's & Blanchard's wild form. Here is the relevant entry from JJA seeds (Aug 2003). Jim Archibald  is surely correct to say that the original form should have had a clonal rather than a botanical name. Creating a new, distinct taxon on the basis of one plant of unknown origin does not seem particularly sensible. But sense doesn't seem to have played much part in the naming of these little hoop-petticoats.
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Re: Winter flowering narcissi
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2008, 02:48:04 PM »
Anne - your 'Atlas Gold' looks a good deal more petunia-like than the photos on Daffseek. Does the degree of flaring increase as the flower ages?
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