Crocus January - 2009

[ashley]

Thanks Gerry, that's a better way of putting it: anglicisation rather than transliteration.

Edit: Ashley - how did you get the cedilla?

I used insert symbol in Word, then cut & paste to the message Gerry.

[mark smyth]

It's brilliant sitting here looking through all the bulletins looking for main articles and seeing how far back some of my plants were first described.

[Gerry Webster]

Thanks Gerry, that's a better way of putting it: anglicisation rather than transliteration.

Ashley - this could be the start of a long discussion as to whether it is transliteration, transcription or anglicisation. I'm not sure, but I think we both know what we were getting at.

[Lvandelft]

Reading the December 96 AGS bulletin I realise I have been spelling chrysanthus 'Ushak Orange' wrong for years I've been spelling it 'Uschak'. Doh!

It is registered at KAVB in Holland as Crocus 'Uschak Orange'  and was introduced from Turkey by Michael Hoog.

[Tony Willis]

Depending on which map you use it can be spelt both ways but that is perhaps because the maps are prepared outside Turkey. I think having been there correct spelling of the province and town is as Usak with the cedilla

[David Nicholson]

Couple here from the greenhouse today but struggling to open properly. Crocus fleischeri, and from Thomas with many thanks Crocus imperati de Jager

[Janis Ruksans]

Presumably it's a transliteration of Uşak, the province in western Turkey.

Yes, it is so, but not province - in original description it is regarded as village. Only now Uşak is large district center with University. Tomorrow I will check it in my office in the first catalogue of Van Tubergen where it was offered for the first time. Suppose it must be accepted as the most correct spelling.
Janis

[Michael J Campbell]

A couple in bloom today.

Crocus versicolour
Crocus sieberi sublimis

[tonyg]

Spring comes early in the emerald isle, although the turn to mild weather here is bringing things on quickly.  Two pretty crocuses Michael although the C sieberi is not ssp sieberi.  Probably ssp atticus although difficult in a picture to tell this from ssp sublimis.

[Michael J Campbell]

Thanks Tony, It was grown from seed so I was not sure which one it was. I have had another  look at your web page gallery and I am satisfied that you are correct,it is  sublimes, will change the label accordingly.

Cheers.

[David Nicholson]

Lovely colours in those Michael.

[ashley]

Very nice David and Michael; I particularly like that wonderful starry fleischeri. 
Mine will probably go over without opening unless conditions here improve

[Janis Ruksans]

Presumably it's a transliteration of Uşak, the province in western Turkey.

Yes, it is so, but not province - in original description it is regarded as village. Only now Uşak is large district center with University. Tomorrow I will check it in my office in the first catalogue of Van Tubergen where it was offered for the first time. Suppose it must be accepted as the most correct spelling.
Janis

Just checked. In 1975 when this name appeared for the first time it was spelt as USCHAK
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Crocus versicolor is extremely variable. In XIX century there were 18 named varieties of it. I made a lot of selections but most were lost in horrible winter a pair of years ago. Some, I hope, alive. In any case I will saw again it for further selection. Here some pictures for you can see variability, but I don't know - have I still them or not. (In two portions)
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Few more of versicolor
Janis