Crocus January - 2009

[Thomas Huber]

The great advantage of spreading my collection to friends worldwide is to see
photos of my plants in a time when nothing grows in my own garden 
Great photos, Anne, David, Tony and everyone else!

[Maggi Young]

The great advantage of spreading my collection to friends worldwide is to see
photos of my plants in a time when nothing grows in my own garden 
Great photos, Anne, David, Tony and everyone else!

Thomas, you have truly a world-wide collection!!

[I.S.]

Tony,
C. biflorus subsp. isauricus spread in a very wide region. Which I have seen before from different turkish forum also, they were usualy lilac or dark lilac with yellow anthers. C. biflorus subsp. nubigena, usualy white flowers with black anthers in one region with connective balckish yellow. For rare forms of biflorus sp, is very difficult to itentify if we don't know where it cames from.

[Armin]

Super images from everybody

Ibrahim,
thank you for sharing your "field explorations" experiences with the forum.
It is always a source of new realizations

[Tony Willis]

For rare forms of biflorus sp, is very difficult to itentify if we don't know where it cames from.

Ibrahim I have a problem with this statement. If it is a different species,i.e. unique,it should be able to be identified without its location.

[tonyg]

For rare forms of biflorus sp, is very difficult to itentify if we don't know where it cames from.

Ibrahim I have a problem with this statement. If it is a different species,i.e. unique,it should be able to be identified without its location.

Me too!
But 'difficult' may imply the need to dissect the plant (despoiling it ).  I agree that taxonomy that relies on location is problematic, perhaps genetic analysis would help .... or perhaps not.  I guess that I am likely to remain a 'lumper'.

[Tony Willis]

For rare forms of biflorus sp, is very difficult to itentify if we don't know where it cames from.

Ibrahim I have a problem with this statement. If it is a different species,i.e. unique,it should be able to be identified without its location.

Me too!
But 'difficult' may imply the need to dissect the plant (despoiling it ).  I agree that taxonomy that relies on location is problematic, perhaps genetic analysis would help .... or perhaps not.  I guess that I am likely to remain a 'lumper'.

Tony it must be in the name ,perhaps all Tony's are lumpers
 On the basis some of these things are decided, if the same rules were applied to humans each one of us would be a sub species. Genetically we are all different. In Chorley this probably applies anyway

[Gerry Webster]

Tony it must be in the name ,perhaps all Tony's are lumpers
 On the basis some of these things are decided, if the same rules were applied to humans each one of us would be a sub species. Genetically we are all different. In Chorley this probably applies anyway

The central problem with traditional (Linnaean) systems of classification. The recognition of variation leads to the multiplication of taxa (subsp., var. etc). In principle, the end result could be as many taxa as there are individuals. Evolutionary biologists have attempted to address this problem but their solution simply raises other, intractable problems.   

[I.S.]

Tony G.& W, You are not lumpers. Lumpers is your crocuses! They don't go in order that is why the taxonomists became lumber

[Oron Peri]

Two Corsicans if flower today, minimus and corsicus

[I.S.]

Two days ago it was very nice and sun was shine so I took some pics.
which are in flower here at the moment.

 C. ancyrensis
 C. biflorus subsp. adamii 2
 C. biflorus subsp. adamii
 C. biflorus subsp. biflorus speckled
 C. candidus
 C. candidus large throat
 C. flavus subsp. dissectus

[David Nicholson]

Lovely stuff Oron and Ibrahim

[Tony Willis]

very nice Ibrahim, I like the specled biflorus very much

[art600]

I like all of them, but the speckled biflorus is a definite favourite. 

[Armin]

Two Corsicans if flower today, minimus and corsicus

Oron,
very exiting. Both are one of my favourites.