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Author Topic: Crocus January - 2009  (Read 60187 times)

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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #345 on: February 01, 2009, 04:54:56 AM »
If the Dutch forms of minimus above (Janis's) are not minimus, what could they possibly be? 'Bavella Form' as I have it (from Marcus Harvey who I believe had it from Alan Edwards), is a different inside colour as well as the heavily black outer segmants. The inner colour is almost magenta rather that purple. But I have a seedling from my own minimus which has an even blacker outer colour, virtually no edge at all, but the inner colour is the more usual purple.
These pics are from spring 2007

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The upper picture is what I have as 'Bavella Form' but doesn't show the inner colour well. The lower picture shows my very dark form plus, on the left, another with very large flowers. I have many in this same quite large patch which are more feathered in outer marks than solid colour. Apart from Bavella, all are seedlings from an original single corm of C. minimus. The dark form flowered before I had Bavella so is not a seedling from 'Bavella Form.' I guess what I'm saying is, C. minimus can vary tremendously even within a single group.

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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #346 on: February 01, 2009, 09:04:55 AM »
I use for identification of true minimus just the very late flowering time. Eva Petrova in Acta Pruhoniciana (vol.33, 1975) wrote that it is the last crocus blooming in their collection. That one which I got from Van Tubergen was much earlier and flowered together with other crocuses. Bavella and form from Sardinia both here are extremely late and the last crocuses blooming in my collection.
I just sorted out great heap of Crocus description forms from eighties and found forms of both Dutch and native minimus but I found only that descriptions was incomplete and on Dutch form was written - incorrect, but I didn't noted what it seems to be. Pity.
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #347 on: February 01, 2009, 09:09:11 AM »
Lesley

Have you separated out the nearly total black plant, and is it increasing?  A striking Crocus  :)
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #348 on: February 01, 2009, 09:40:49 AM »
Cannot flowering time of different clones vary considerably? I am thinking of the many snowdrop varieties/cultivars that vary by months in their flowering time even within a species.
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #349 on: February 01, 2009, 11:39:54 AM »
I try to label all my pots with source, date and specie.  Occasionally  :) this does not happen and I would welcome identification of this potful.  I also show a rogue Crocus present in the pot that I would like identified.

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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #350 on: February 01, 2009, 11:42:11 AM »
It will take greater experts than I am to help you with the ID Arthur - but I do know a good Crocus when I see one !  It's a stunner ! :o :o
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #351 on: February 01, 2009, 12:30:26 PM »
Someone asked me to post pictures of my pot of Crocus abantensis as they progressed.  Photos were taken yesterday.
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #352 on: February 01, 2009, 12:40:07 PM »
From the bulb house yesterday - Crocus biflorus isauricus.  The original two bulbs from Kath Dryden are now three  :)
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #353 on: February 01, 2009, 05:25:47 PM »
Thank you all for these splendid pics. Under glass and with the sunshine, several species open their blooms

Crocus biflorus adamii
 Crocus biflorus crewei
 Crocus biflorus isauricus
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #354 on: February 01, 2009, 05:32:41 PM »
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My antalyensis is very different with white anthers

Crocus antalyensis
 Crocus antalyensis
 Crocus biflorus melantherus
 Crocus biflorus melantherus
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #355 on: February 01, 2009, 05:38:11 PM »
Luc Sorry, I would say white stigmate for my antalyensis

Crocus biflorus melantherus
 Crocus biflorus nubigena
 Crocus biflorus nubigena
 Crocus biflorus nubigena
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #356 on: February 01, 2009, 05:45:42 PM »
Crocus angustifolius 4 years sown, first bloom !!! Very orange coour of C. flavus and an unidentified biflorus
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #357 on: February 01, 2009, 05:50:27 PM »
Here is Crocus angustifolius MINOR
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #358 on: February 01, 2009, 05:52:27 PM »
Crocus corsicus from seed - first flowering
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Re: Crocus January - 2009
« Reply #359 on: February 01, 2009, 05:55:33 PM »
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Crocus nevadensis
 
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