Narcissus January- February 2009

[ashley]

 

Magnificent Anne.  Do you position your bulbs snugly or is this a pot that's bulked up over a couple of years from a thinner planting?

[Gerry Webster]

My hoop petticoats are coming into their own now too. The main display today was from N. romieuxii var mesatlanticus. It bothers me that what I have as this species is later and yellower than Ian's shown on the bulb log. Perhaps they are just different clones. John Blanchard's book does say they can be white to pale yellow. Any input would be welcome.

Anne - really beautiful!

Paul Christian describes his stock as "darker yellow" (presumably as compared with his 'ordinary' N. romieuxii)

[annew]

There are 2 or 3 layers of bulbs in there, I don't have space for more than 2 pots of things, so I have to cram them in. They are repotted every year though.

[art600]

Here are some from my bulb house

1282 - unknown
1283 - unknown
1286 - I have this as bulbocodium vulgaris  Wallis M84-26

[Lesley Cox]

Your'e right Anne, I'd be swearing and cursing all over the place.

[Lesley Cox]

Arthur, surely the lot are forms of N. romieuxii?

[David Nicholson]

I assume the 'Wallis' refers to Bob and Rannveig Wallis (Buried Treasure Nursery). I had a look at their last years List to see if there was a clue. No success though.

[art600]

Arthur, surely the lot are forms of N. romieuxii?

Lesley

You could well be right.  I just enjoy the subtle differences, especially the 'stargazer' type.

[fermi de Sousa]

Arthur, surely the lot are forms of N. romieuxii?

Lesley

You could well be right.  I just enjoy the subtle differences, especially the 'stargazer' type.

And all that pollen!

[Brian Duncan]

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They are from second generation seed from N. 'Camoro' a hybrid between N.cantabricus monophylus and N. romieuxii.
I do not know if another species was involved in this second generation or not but I have never seen any of this group having twin flowers.
I was wondering if Rafa or any one else has seen such a thing in the wild or cultivation.

Very intereating and nice plants Ian - I thought Camoro, being a hybrid, albeit of closely related species, might have been sterile so this is good news as 'Camoro' has better legs than many of the species in this low light area.
I have seen several fairly large deep yellow N. bulbocodium with twin-flowers in a small area close to the Rio Guadiano. Can't be sure if it was genetic or a freak seasonal thing.

[Ian Y]

Anne
I have read of that there are at least two forms of Narcissus romieuxii var mesatlanticus in cultivation and if you read Blanchard he tells us that Maire described it as a quite deep yellow but that the form in cultivation is pale yellow. Wells in his book Modern Miniature Daffodils describes three forms two are pictured one looks like yours and the other like the one I have. So I do not think you need to worry about yours being wrongly named and it is a very nice looking pot full. Apparently it was the deep yellow form that got the Award of Merit.

Brian yes N.Camoro is fully fertile makes you wonder when as you say it is a cross between two supposedly different species

Every day new Narcissus seedlings are flowering and they are all a total mystery to me. They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing - I thought I knew all the hoop petticoat species but it appears that the only thing I learn as I read about these Narcissus is how much I don't know.

[annew]

Thanks, Ian!

[Rafa]

Here two narcissus, the second one is bigger (almost double)  Its seems Narcissus x stenanthus, but not a complete hybrid, just some chromosomic gamets.

[annew]

Very nice Rafa, good deep colour.
Here are a few more from me: December Gold, Atlas Gold from Dave Toole, N hedreanthus, Joy Bishop, and Yellow Pet.

[Rafa]

Beautiful plants! N. hedraeanthus is one of my favourites