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Rafa

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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #75 on: January 12, 2009, 07:03:10 PM »
a cuple,
N. albidus foliosus
N. graellsii

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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2009, 07:13:36 PM »
drool, drool ;D
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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #77 on: January 12, 2009, 08:26:06 PM »
So Anthony's may turn out to be ex 'Atlas Gold' or in other words, one of very many seedlings which are being raised from the original 805 collection of seed, which itself showed so much variation. Probably it would have been better if none had been named since it seems impossible nowadays to maintain an original selection, if that selection is fertile. Grow them, enjoy them but don't lose sleep over their naming.
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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #78 on: January 12, 2009, 09:36:45 PM »
This is "true" 'Atlas Gold,' from Potterton and Martin (as it was then) in 1993.

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And yes, upright, grass-like foliage, rounded. It is extremely vigorous and a smallish clump can produce 70 or more flowers, starting to flower in mid winter. I sometimes have the buds open at ground level (they are outside), fill with snow or water and become little cuplets of ice which are extremely beautiful. When they thaw, they are still in perfect condition.

I've only had seed on AG a couple of times in 15 years and the first batch hasn't flowered yet.
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2009, 10:13:08 PM »
I looked at 'Atlas Gold' today, again, longing for flowers but there aint any there.  :-[
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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2009, 10:25:50 PM »
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N. albidus foliosus
Well that puzzles me... I am familiar with N. romieuxii albidus   and also with N. cantabricus foliosus, but  N. albidus foliosus  is a mystery to me... Help, please, Rafa!
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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2009, 11:05:23 PM »
I looked at 'Atlas Gold' today, again, longing for flowers but there aint any there.  :-[
Mark - try a warm dry rest in the summer. Mine are in bud at the moment &, as Lesley says, it seems to be very floriferous.
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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2009, 11:11:31 PM »
My Atlas Gold (not from Pottertons) was weak and miffy, suspect it had caught a cold somewhere, I gave it the heave-ho a few years ago.

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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2009, 11:30:45 PM »
My plant is labelled Narcissus romieuxii ex 'Julia Jane' SRGC seed 2003. I have another in flower labelled N. romieuxii JJA 805.
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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2009, 12:56:49 PM »
Narcissus albidus var. foliosus was named by Michael Salomon. I think is not currenty accepted but it is neccesary to say that this species has 6 long leaves per bulb, and I think it is clear a distinctive feature.

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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2009, 01:51:13 PM »
my first small narcissus is out.It is Narcissus bulbocodium from near Avila which is just down the road from where Rafa lives.
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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2009, 02:10:24 PM »
Hello Tony, this is exactly the same Narcissus bulbocodium that grows in most Carpetania region it is subsp. bulbocodium var. nivalis.
It bllom in march, but in green houses or bulb frames it bloom very soon. Some bulbs that I grow has bloomed 3 weeks ago!

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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2009, 02:25:39 PM »
Two (similar) Narcissi from Marocco, I received them as Narcissus cantabricus ssp.cantabricus var. foliosus and Narcissus cantabricus ssp. tananicus - but I am not sure if this names are still valid... ::)
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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2009, 02:31:53 PM »
wow  :o very beautiful pictures Hans!

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Re: Narcissus January- February 2009
« Reply #89 on: January 13, 2009, 02:56:21 PM »
Super photos of some of my favourite flowers.

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Narcissus albidus var. foliosus was named by Michael Salomon. I think is not currenty accepted but it is neccesary to say that this species has 6 long leaves per bulb, and I think it is clear a distinctive feature.


 Rafa, thank you for this information.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2009, 08:38:19 PM by Maggi Young »
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