We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Snowdrop cultivation advice  (Read 22312 times)

steve owen

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 731
  • Country: 00
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2009, 07:53:26 AM »
 ???
One for the chemists; where might one buy a bottle of 1% peroxide in the UK?
NCPPG National Collection Holder for Galanthus
Beds/Bucks border

Hans J

  • Gardener and Gourmet
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4165
  • Country: de
"The bigger the roof damage, the better the view"(Alexandra Potter)

art600

  • Travels light, travels far
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2699
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2009, 08:46:36 AM »
 ???
Arthur Nicholls

Anything bulbous    North Kent

Hagen Engelmann

  • treuer Schneeglöckchenfreund
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1591
  • Country: de
    • http://www.engelmannii.de
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2009, 08:55:52 AM »
Steve, here in Germany you can buy H2O2 in every apothecary.
Hagen Engelmann Brandenburg/Germany (80m) http://www.engelmannii.de]

Anthony Darby

  • Bug Buff & Punster
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9647
  • Country: nz
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2009, 08:59:18 AM »
1% H2O2 sounds pretty week? We use 10% or 40 volumes in school. I used 10% to remove dead tissue and cure mouth rot in a Jamaican Boa over 25 years ago. You can buy hydrogen peroxide bleach and check the label to see the percentages. I'm sure chemists and supermarkets will have various products which are just diluted H2O2?
« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 09:02:26 AM by Anthony Darby »
Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution"
http://www.dunblanecathedral.org.uk/Choir/The-Choir.html

steve owen

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 731
  • Country: 00
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2009, 10:44:52 AM »
Arthur/Hans/Hagen

Can I ask your views a little more please;

1. I'm using Chizm (active ingredient: carbendazim) as my bulb-washing fungicide. In what circumstances do you believe H2O2 might be better?

2. H2O2 at what strength/dilution?

Steve
NCPPG National Collection Holder for Galanthus
Beds/Bucks border

Hans J

  • Gardener and Gourmet
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4165
  • Country: de
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2009, 10:53:49 AM »
Steve :

to 1.
I have not expieriece - this active is not allowed here in Germany - only for professionals

to 2. I use H202 1% for desinfections ( for cleaning seeds ) and for wounds on bulbs
   you here buy H2O2 in different dilitions ( 33 % ) or 3 % ... with my formula is it easy to mi it self

A friend told me also it is possibly to use NaCIO ( Natriumhypochlorid )
I have asked yesterday in our apothecary it is possibly to buy in 1% ( the price is 7,30 Euro for 250 ml )

But I have no expierince with the last.

« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 07:23:37 PM by Hans J »
"The bigger the roof damage, the better the view"(Alexandra Potter)

Anthony Darby

  • Bug Buff & Punster
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9647
  • Country: nz
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2009, 11:14:09 AM »
Don't you mean sodium (natrium) hypochlorite (NaClO) Hans? Na2Cl doesn't exist and NaCl is common table salt.
Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution"
http://www.dunblanecathedral.org.uk/Choir/The-Choir.html

Hans J

  • Gardener and Gourmet
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4165
  • Country: de
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2009, 11:24:30 AM »
Anthony ,

my friend wrote me : Natriumhypochlorit
....the apothecary wrote me yesterday :Na2OCL

in wikipedia you found this :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hypochlorite

I think you are rigth with : NaCIO !
« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 11:30:17 AM by Hans J »
"The bigger the roof damage, the better the view"(Alexandra Potter)

Anthony Darby

  • Bug Buff & Punster
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9647
  • Country: nz
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2009, 11:52:19 AM »
Sodium hypochlorite is in most liquid bleaches, although the one I have in front of me now (Jeyes Parazone) doesn't actually say what's in it! (It just says under ingredients: "Anionic surfactants; Perfume; Disinfectant") ::)

Hans, if you use 1% H2O2 to sterilise seeds, I wonder if that process could be used to introduce sterile orchid seeds to an agar medium without need for a reverse-flow cabinet?
Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution"
http://www.dunblanecathedral.org.uk/Choir/The-Choir.html

Hans J

  • Gardener and Gourmet
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4165
  • Country: de
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2009, 12:01:51 PM »
Anthony :

I use H2O2 1% only for seeds of fleshy Amaryllids : Clivia, Haemanthus,Scadoxus ....for one hour - this works fine- without any damages of seeds ,roots ....

After this time I lay the seeds ( p.e. CLivia + Scadoxus ) in pure Sphagnun moss for sowing.

Sorry but I have no expierience with Agar medium.
"The bigger the roof damage, the better the view"(Alexandra Potter)

Alan_b

  • 'finder of the light'
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3976
  • Country: england
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #71 on: February 03, 2009, 01:44:04 PM »
Since there seems to be some interest in the use of dilute hydrogen peroxide, here is the original reference johnw mentioned (as supplied to me by the man himself).

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Stagonospora%20curtisii



« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 02:02:31 PM by Alan_b »
Almost in Scotland.

loes

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 294
  • Country: nl
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2009, 03:05:07 PM »
 ;) ;) ;) You made my day!

as a non-professional I couldn`t lay my hands on any fungiside so therefore I didn`t sterilize bulbs or soil.
and now you tell me I can use peroxide!that`s available everywhere!
so next year I can try to chip a bulb  ;D
Loes de Groot
Haarlem
Holland

www.catteryvanhetzaanenbos.nl

Hans J

  • Gardener and Gourmet
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4165
  • Country: de
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2009, 03:40:18 PM »
Martin :

H2O2 was earlier used to change color of the hairs  ;D


.....so maybe "Blonde Inge" .... has worked with this  :P
« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 03:44:18 PM by Hans J »
"The bigger the roof damage, the better the view"(Alexandra Potter)

Anthony Darby

  • Bug Buff & Punster
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9647
  • Country: nz
Re: Snowdrop cultivation advice
« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2009, 03:43:45 PM »
Martin :

H2O2 was earlier used to change color of the hairs  ;D

It still is, although it is too late for me. I think I'll have rabbits tattooed on my head. They'll look like hairs from a distance. ::)
Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution"
http://www.dunblanecathedral.org.uk/Choir/The-Choir.html

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal