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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2009, 12:39:33 PM »
A picture of the plant i purchased as Hyacinthella millingenii a few years- i don't know if it is, but it's the first to flower of the several species i have. Any opinions as to its id?
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2009, 02:51:28 PM »
My first time ever with this genera!

By the looks of this little fella, i would say it is doing quite well for a warm climate.

Can someone tell me if it is a true M. armeniacum?

Thanks
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2009, 03:07:04 PM »
My first time ever with this genera!

By the looks of this little fella, i would say it is doing quite well for a warm climate.

Can someone tell me if it is a true M. armeniacum?

Thanks
It looks like the plant I know as M.armeniacum. We have it growing wild here in grassland and it is baked every summer.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2009, 04:21:57 PM »
Can someone tell me if it is a true M. armeniacum?
Can someone tell me what is it a true M. armeniacum?
Surprisingly it grows everywhere except Armenia.
Yuri in Moscow

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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2009, 04:26:12 PM »
How hot does it get on summer on Bulgaria?
"F" for Fritillaria, that's good enough to me ;)
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2009, 06:27:01 PM »
How hot does it get on summer on Bulgaria?
In the sun, on a hot day in summer, it can be 45C. The grassland the Muscari armeniacum grows in is parched and browned by this time of year. It should be happy with you  :)
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2009, 06:30:13 PM »
Can someone tell me if it is a true M. armeniacum?
Can someone tell me what is it a true M. armeniacum?
Surprisingly it grows everywhere except Armenia.
My reference book says it is found from the Balkans through Turkey to the Caucasus. Does it miss Armenia?
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2009, 06:30:46 PM »
As described, armeniacum has broad linear leaves with a greyish cast on the outside. Otherwise, quite similar to botryoides in flower color.

Originally from Bulgaria, Turkey, Greece and Yugoslavia
Alberto Castillo, in south America, near buenos Aires, Argentina.

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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #83 on: February 28, 2009, 08:27:24 PM »
As described, armeniacum has broad linear leaves with a greyish cast on the outside. Otherwise, quite similar to botryoides in flower color.
As these?
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2009, 09:44:45 PM »
Yuri, what a stunning shade!

However, the little that can be seen of the leaves suggest neglectum (leaves 2-8 mm. broad, longer than the scape)
Alberto Castillo, in south America, near buenos Aires, Argentina.

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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2009, 10:38:52 PM »
As described, armeniacum has broad linear leaves with a greyish cast on the outside. Otherwise, quite similar to botryoides in flower color.

Originally from Bulgaria, Turkey, Greece and Yugoslavia
Intriguingly, Phillips and Rix suggest Muscari armeniacum is also found in Turkey and the Caucasus, and show plants from 2 collections in Turkey. The wild Muscari botryoides- or at least our local form- is easily recognised by its very sparsely flowered spikes, as pictured in Polunin's 'Flowers of Europe'.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #86 on: February 28, 2009, 11:25:06 PM »
Hi:

    Of course it is to be expected that other locations are given for known species.

    To clarify things, armeniacum and neglectum have 3- 6 linear leaves (parallel sides), in armeniacum really broad.

     In botryoides the 2-3 leaves are not linear, they are broader at the apex. Also, the leaves are shorter than the scape.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2009, 11:54:37 PM »
A picture of the plant I purchased as Hyacinthella millingenii a few years- I don't know if it is, but it's the first to flower of the several species I have. Any opinions as to its id?
That looks lovely, and the short broad leaves help in that respect. One I will be seeking out.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #88 on: March 01, 2009, 08:10:39 AM »
Thanks Anthony. It's the first to flower of the half dozen or so Hyacinthellas i have.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #89 on: March 01, 2009, 12:21:58 PM »
A picture of the plant i purchased as Hyacinthella millingenii a few years- i don't know if it is, but it's the first to flower of the several species i have. Any opinions as to its id?
Size, leaves and habit suggest it might be as you name it but its is a much better form than the one I grow under that name.

 


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