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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #90 on: March 01, 2009, 12:30:45 PM »
Thanks Tony. It came from Buried Treasure a few years ago now.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2009, 08:13:50 AM »
However, the little that can be seen of the leaves suggest neglectum (leaves 2-8 mm. broad, longer than the scape)
Muscari neglectum looks different there.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2009, 09:12:41 AM »
However, the little that can be seen of the leaves suggest neglectum (leaves 2-8 mm. broad, longer than the scape)
Muscari neglectum looks different there.
I agree Yuri, it is hard to distinguish blue flowers from the shades of blue in a photo as blue seems to be one of the colours that is most easily shifted, but Muscari neglectum is very easy to recognise because of the darker lower flowers.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #93 on: March 08, 2009, 04:06:36 PM »
This was grown from SRGC seed as Muscari chalusicum (syn. M. pseudomuscari according to Brian Matthew)

Can anyone confirm please ?
Two pictures one a bit blurry but gives a good image of the leaves.

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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #94 on: March 08, 2009, 09:51:32 PM »
This was grown from SRGC seed as Muscari chalusicum (syn. M. pseudomuscari according to Brian Matthew)
Can anyone confirm please ?
Two pictures one a bit blurry but gives a good image of the leaves.
Thanks

Luc,
M. chalusicum is a synonymous for M. pseudomuscari, but I have a feeling that yours is M. azureum which has darker colored flowers and shorter leaves. it is not easy to distinguish these two.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #95 on: March 09, 2009, 10:35:31 AM »
Muscari bicolor [Leopoldia bicolor] is in flower at the moment.
This species is endemic to the narrow coastal strip from North Egypt to S. Lebanon.
Growing in pure sand.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #96 on: March 09, 2009, 11:11:26 AM »
Luc , my Muscari chalusicum has longer, sprawling leaves ,but more or less the same
colour as your flower ,
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #97 on: March 09, 2009, 06:48:10 PM »
Similar in form but different colors, Muscari weissii [double S] growing in Crete, S. Greece, many of the Islands and W. Turkey.
These photos where taken in Rhodos.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2009, 06:52:46 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #98 on: March 10, 2009, 06:40:23 AM »
Luc, it is the most interesting shape of the flowers and raceme seen in Pseudomuscari. Is it known an origin of the seeds?
The prominent leaf venation is a feature of Hyacinthella.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2009, 06:58:21 AM by Yuri Pirogov »
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #99 on: March 10, 2009, 03:13:52 PM »
This muscari do not open its flowers at all. I have it for years but its name is lost in annales. Any suggestions?
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #100 on: March 15, 2009, 12:16:42 PM »
Hyacinthella species (lost label) today in the bulb frame.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #101 on: March 15, 2009, 01:18:05 PM »
This muscari do not open its flowers at all. I have it for years but its name is lost in annales. Any suggestions?

Yuri, that looks like the cultivar 'Saffier', generally attributed to Muscari armeniacum.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #102 on: March 15, 2009, 02:35:24 PM »
Hyacinthella species (lost label) today in the bulb frame.

Simon, looks to me like H. glabrescens.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #103 on: March 15, 2009, 02:45:22 PM »
Hyacinthella species (lost label) today in the bulb frame.

Simon, looks to me like H. glabrescens.
Thanks for your help Oron.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #104 on: March 16, 2009, 08:53:35 AM »
This was grown from SRGC seed as Muscari chalusicum (syn. M. pseudomuscari according to Brian Matthew)
Can anyone confirm please ?
Two pictures one a bit blurry but gives a good image of the leaves.
Thanks

Luc,
M. chalusicum is a synonymous for M. pseudomuscari, but I have a feeling that yours is M. azureum which has darker colored flowers and shorter leaves. it is not easy to distinguish these two.
Oron,
I am a real novice in muscari (although I like them and try to bulid up a small collection) but my recollection of M azureum is that the flowers were not as bell-shaped as in these pictures. My memory can be wrong but can you comment on that please.
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